On shotguns becoming sniping rifles..

(RectalTerror) #1

First, to say that I’m not biased against shotguns - I love shotguns. My main mercs have shotguns. I use shotguns, mainly because I can’t aim. I know the downside, you have to be close, and I’m fine with it, I can’t aim (not young anymore), at least there’s something I can use.

And that was the deal with shotguns, you had to get close to the enemy, and it was the same thing for the enemy. But now that strategy of keeping your distances from an enemy with a shotgun is GONE. What is the point of turning shotguns into a normal rifle? It was already too much like that, I thought one day it’d be nerved, not buffed.

(GatoCommodore) #2

@376E1AE459B1 said:
First, to say that I’m not biased against shotguns - I love shotguns. My main mercs have shotguns. I use shotguns, mainly because I can’t aim. I know the downside, you have to be close, and I’m fine with it, I can’t aim (not young anymore), at least there’s something I can use.

And that was the deal with shotguns, you had to get close to the enemy, and it was the same thing for the enemy. But now that strategy of keeping your distances from an enemy with a shotgun is GONE. What is the point of turning shotguns into a normal rifle? It was already too much like that, I thought one day it’d be nerved, not buffed.

people are asking the same thing, we havent got a good answer tho

(Guziol) #3

Shotguns are finally not a joke on anything beyond close range. Don’t ruin this for me.

(RectalTerror) #4

@Guziol said:
Shotguns are finally not a joke on anything beyond close range. Don’t ruin this for me.

that was supposed to be the drawback of shotguns. Why even have them otherwise?

(watsyurdeal) #5

@376E1AE459B1 said:

@Guziol said:
Shotguns are finally not a joke on anything beyond close range. Don’t ruin this for me.

that was supposed to be the drawback of shotguns. Why even have them otherwise?

Because they might as well not even exist as a primary, maybe as a secondary.

They need to be somewhat competitive.

(LifeupOmega) #6

@376E1AE459B1 said:

@Guziol said:
Shotguns are finally not a joke on anything beyond close range. Don’t ruin this for me.

that was supposed to be the drawback of shotguns. Why even have them otherwise?

Because being one shot is dumb. Because they need to be usable against AR/SMGs.

(Szakalot) #7

ive seen a good rhino use the new ahnuld very well. Finally its a gun that can be threatening and isnt completely negated by pressing ‘s’

(kopyright) #8

@LifeupOmega said:

@376E1AE459B1 said:

@Guziol said:
Shotguns are finally not a joke on anything beyond close range. Don’t ruin this for me.

that was supposed to be the drawback of shotguns. Why even have them otherwise?

Because being one shot is dumb.

Didn’t stop them from adding dumb weapons like sniper rifles and the REVIVR, though.

(Guziol) #9

@Szakalot said:
ive seen a good rhino use the new ahnuld very well. Finally its a gun that can be threatening and isnt completely negated by pressing ‘s’

Oh god i had so much fun with ahnuld rhino since the patch it’s crazy. Hollunds proxy also felt way less gimped.

(ThunderZsolt) #10

Old shotguns were “rewarding” cheap free kills at close range, while being useless at anything but point blank range.

With the rework they are more useful, and way less annoying to play against - this is what you call 2 birds with 1 stone, don’t you?

(B_Montiel) #11

@GatoCommodore said:

@376E1AE459B1 said:
First, to say that I’m not biased against shotguns - I love shotguns. My main mercs have shotguns. I use shotguns, mainly because I can’t aim. I know the downside, you have to be close, and I’m fine with it, I can’t aim (not young anymore), at least there’s something I can use.

And that was the deal with shotguns, you had to get close to the enemy, and it was the same thing for the enemy. But now that strategy of keeping your distances from an enemy with a shotgun is GONE. What is the point of turning shotguns into a normal rifle? It was already too much like that, I thought one day it’d be nerved, not buffed.

people are asking the same thing, we havent got a good answer tho

This has been a much debated topic over the past few months years.
The main issues were :

  • Not very fair to play against on public games due to 1htk capabilities on point blank
  • Total unreliability over range
  • Low skill ceiling, with smgs becoming more potent and reliable even in the hard ambush way

Thus making them proper nobrain harvesters on public game while being them totally useless in high level.

(Press E) #12

If they hadn’t nerfed machine pistols so much it wouldn’t really matter.
The thing is, you can have a shit primary as long as your other weapons, abilities and loadouts are good. That’s the reason sparks can get away with having secondaries for primaries and still be decent.
I just don’t understand why every gun has to be a top-tier weapon. Just let some be worse, and balance the mercs who use them to better fit it.

Besides, shotguns were still viable af in comp if you were in the right place. But instead people want a weapon that you can use pretty much anywhere instead of planning, which is the whole point of ranked.

(Sorotia) #13

Gotta keep dem Proxy scrubs happy? Always buffing the guns she uses even when said buffs aren’t needed.

Explosive gib nerf means they needed to buff her in some other way.

(Mr.Cuddlesworth) #14

My Proxy demands an auto-Remburg with a 20 shell drum mag.

(GatoCommodore) #15

@Mr.Cuddlesworth said:
My Proxy demands an auto-Remburg with a 20 shell drum mag.

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(Sorotia) #16

@Mr.Cuddlesworth said:
My Proxy demands an auto-Remburg with a 20 shell drum mag.

Why not DW AA12s?

(FalC_16) #17

@Sorotia said:

@Mr.Cuddlesworth said:
My Proxy demands an auto-Remburg with a 20 shell drum mag.

Why not DW AA12s?

Aaaand as always hev a nice day… man i miss FPSRussia xD