No Quarter source

Meyerinchains · 2007-09-07 14:03:53 UTC

http://www.shitstorm.org/viewtopic.php?t=7510

S.S.Meyerinchains:

Ok, so it turns out, progress on NQ has slowed to a halt. The performance issues have really killed our progress and we haven’t been able to solve them yet. They are very time consuming to debug and figure out the cause and all of us NQ devs have gotten bogged down with real life stuff. Whether it be work, women, or school none of have had the time to work together to crush these issues, since they are tough to figure out. Once they do get solved, then we can jump back into adding all the stuff we planned to put in, but had to delay instead. We, the NQ devs, still want to work on NQ, but we are just so frustrated with the lag, fps and server cpu usage issues we can’t keep adding new stuff until that is fixed. So, just know, we are NOT abandoning the project.

To speed this process of fixing NQ’s performance, we’ve decided to go open source. A fresh set of eyes might shed some light on things we’ve looked over millions of times before. This is only read-only access. Patches, fixes, feature add-ons and other code pieces can be posted in the NQ forums here, attached our mantis bug tracker site, or emailed to meyerinchains (at) hotmail (dot) com.

I suggest you use an SVN client to download the source, such as TortoiseSVN. Take note though, this host timeouts like crazy, so just keep retrying if it disconnects you. (We don’t actually use that one anymore, because it was so bad, so it is just being used as a mirror).

http://opensvn.csie.org/NoQuarter
You will be interested in “trunk” not any “branches” or “tags”.

The host, OpenSVN has a built in trac thing, for those familiar with ETPub’s. https://opensvn.csie.org/traccgi/NoQuarter/log/
I really don’t recommend the trac thing though, as it’ll probably be ridiculously slow and SVN is just way better.
Enjoy!

FYI: No, (that means no), support will be provided for getting code to compile or run. I tested it an hour ago, and it compiles for me. Linux users may have to update some project files, but that is all.

NOTE: I strongly advise against a full on ETPub/NQ hybrid mod. That’ll just be a mess. ETPub is designed to work as a serverside only mod with optional client, NQ requires both server and client. That right there doesn’t make them both very compatible with each other. Both mods support many of the same features as well. If there’s something in particular you want from ETPub in NQ, request it or send me a patch for it and vice-versa. This will still and always be the true No Quarter. Recent statistics indicate that NQ has a hold of 20% of all ET players, losing only to ETPub and Jaymod. That is a major acomplishment I would say, for a mod released so late in the game’s life. The goal for making NQ open source is to speed along it’s progress, as we have only really had one major release this entire year. Let try to make No Quarter the best it can be! People who contribute regularly will be named in the credits and possibly be given other perks, yet to be named.

ShadowAgent · 2007-09-08 00:01:44 UTC

can you explain me why ive been banned from a forum i never went on :o

SSF-Sage · 2007-09-08 13:13:48 UTC

It can be because of email address’s end (for example hotmail.com). It can be your location, isp, part of the ip, that has been banned. Maybe there were some bot problems and they needed to ban some spambots.

Meyerinchains · 2007-09-08 14:21:26 UTC

I can only explain that if you use the Videotron ISP in Canada. We had a problem for many months with a hacker up there who kept changing IP’s, but was always within the same ISP. Sorry that guy had to kill it for others in the area. But I’m going to edit my original post to include the content of the topic.

ShadowAgent · 2007-09-08 15:55:31 UTC

lol thats true :banghead:

PAV · 2007-09-13 12:36:59 UTC

No quarter is a very very good MOD. I like this idea to transmit work and knowledge free, thx for the . Thank you to give your work to the codder which needs some.

moonShield · 2007-09-14 22:44:56 UTC

Now if this mod gets a better antilag implementation i’ll never touch etpro again ;).

PAV · 2007-09-14 22:52:17 UTC

the etpro’s team said the same thing !

Meyerinchains · 2007-09-15 14:24:30 UTC

I’m in the process of moving the repository to a new host. I don’t know if anyone’s had luck downloading it yet, but I tried to test it a few times, and it always timesout. Gonna try a new one that’s a little more reliable, and I’ll post the new info here when it’s ready.

And it’s not really the antilag. It’s just that NQ is hogging server CPU (2 to 3 times more than other mods) and we never figured out why. Once that is fixed, I’m sure it’ll run a bit smoother too.

kamikazee · 2007-09-15 14:34:53 UTC

Hmmm, sounds like something we encountered in FalckonET as well…

Meyerinchains · 2007-09-16 21:54:40 UTC

The server cpu usage thing??

kamikazee · 2007-09-16 22:00:46 UTC

Well yes, but far worse. The CPU usage would really max out, causing the server to go on its knees.

Meyerinchains · 2007-09-18 03:55:55 UTC

Yikes, that is far worse. Ever fix it or discover its cause?

kamikazee · 2007-09-18 10:49:18 UTC

In the end, it turned out to be a run-away loop iterating all the entities a few times per server frame and doing some string compares. You can imagine this takes some processing power.

Chaos101 · 2007-09-18 15:42:21 UTC

meh… cant get qagame to compile with msvs2008 beta
damn i hate the beta… but i cant find 2005 anywhere…

anyway, thanks for the contribution to the open source world

Rudi · 2007-09-18 16:12:15 UTC

The ET SDK compiles fine with VS2008 Team Edition / Professional Edition, don’t know about NQ, but make sure you’re selecting Release instead of Debug.

Chaos101 · 2007-09-18 17:03:33 UTC

already did that

anyway, i just found msvs2005, downloading now, 41.7% done

Chaos101 · 2007-09-18 21:21:27 UTC

I’m getting this now:
“\g_bot.c(7) : fatal error C1083: Cannot open include file: ‘…/game/be_ea.h’: No such file or directory”

this file isnt in the tracker thing, does that mean i can remove the include?

edit: i seem to be missing almost all includes g_bot.c asks for, am i missing a folder?

Rudi · 2007-09-26 15:18:02 UTC

Try downloading the ET SDK and then putting the NQ Source over the top of that.

molotov · 2008-12-20 21:45:46 UTC

heh, a little bumping but i dont wanted create a whole new topic:

noquarter 1.2.3 is released

http://shitstorm.org/viewtopic.php?p=82243#82243
http://shitstorm.org/noquarter/wiki/index.php?title=No_Quarter_Mod

Merry Christmas to all!