Can someone enlighten me? So far it seems as if there are no restrictions as to who can register, browse and post on the forums no matter if they’re in the beta or not.
I am pretty certain the NDA is still in effect but someone might want to point that out to Nexon. At least open up a proper section of the forums specifically for the beta because as it stands now, the NDA means nothing over there.
Yes there is still NDA, yes Nexon forums are public and yes you can post things covered by the NDA in their forums. :rolleyes:
I don’t get it either, but I would imagine NDA is going to be lifted fairly soon (it was hinted by several people at both SD and Nexon) and either it’s too much hassle for Nexon to “fix” their forum before it lifts, or they don’t really care if the really super keen non-beta players can see stuff a bit before everyone else.
[QUOTE=Mustang;513610]Yes there is still NDA, yes Nexon forums are public and yes you can post things covered by the NDA in their forums. :rolleyes:
I don’t get it either, but I would imagine NDA is going to be lifted fairly soon (it was hinted by several people at both SD and Nexon) and either it’s too much hassle for Nexon to “fix” their forum before it lifts, or they don’t really care if the really super keen non-beta players can see stuff a bit before everyone else.[/QUOTE]
depends on what they see, the vocal majority are always the bitchers and moaners
Miss murder cannot even answer by a “yes” or a “no” to a simple question like this. They get you their legal jibberish and in the end you don’t know more.
Can we have a big “YES” or “NO” here ??? Because players are proudly breaking the NDA and encouraging others to do so. Either you make it clear the NDA is here and legal consequences are applied in case someone breaks it, or let us as well post things publicly. We will have way better, more oriented toward what you want from this game posts and content than the new guy who thinks he’s knows the game after 2 hours of playing.
And again, if the NDA is lifted, it’s too soon for obvious reasons: player retention. Please don’t kill this game before it’s even out just to comply with Nexon’s policy.
only Nexon has lifted the NDA, seems Zombies ate their brains, Halloween can be a bitch
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And again, if the NDA is lifted, it’s too soon for obvious reasons: player retention. Please don’t kill this game before it’s even out just to comply with Nexon’s idioticy.[/QUOTE]
there. i fixed it for ya!
on a side note, the words sexy and poop are censored, funny when MissMurder kept promising new “Sexy” forums, they’re so anal I can see ROE crap coming soon
Would be great to get some input from SD on this one.
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Just got this reply from MissMurder. I’m even more confused right now.
[QUOTE=RasteRayzeR;513628]Miss murder cannot even answer by a “yes” or a “no” to a simple question like this. They get you their legal jibberish and in the end you don’t know more.
Can we have a big “YES” or “NO” here ??? Because players are proudly breaking the NDA and encouraging others to do so. Either you make it clear the NDA is here and legal consequences are applied in case someone breaks it, or let us as well post things publicly. We will have way better, more oriented toward what you want from this game posts and content than the new guy who thinks he’s knows the game after 2 hours of playing.
And again, if the NDA is lifted, it’s too soon for obvious reasons: player retention. Please don’t kill this game before it’s even out just to comply with Nexon’s policy.[/QUOTE]
You haven’t received a yes/no answer yet as it’s not a yes/no situation I’m afraid. Basically, the NDA is still place. With that said, anyone is free to discuss the beta in Nexon’s new forum as though it were a closed forum. Discussion/disclosure outside of that forum will still be treated as an NDA breach (other than pre-approved locations our forum, game etc). And yes, the rumours are true, the NDA will be lifting relatively soon. We’ll have more on that later ;).
You trying to post about sexy poop Nail O_o. Don’t worry, I’m not gonna judge.
[QUOTE=chippy;513767]Would be great to get some input from SD on this one.
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Just got this reply from MissMurder. I’m even more confused right now.
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RIP Dirty Bomb
I hope SD has the balls to step up and show Nexon that the game is far away from being reday to get a NDA Lift. I mean there are so many issues you better not have public coughplayer retention cough
I mean even the SD fanboys dont play this game very often, so why opening up everything? Just because Nexon does care about money only? Well, imo thats not a samrt move …
[QUOTE=Kl3ppy;513780]RIP Dirty Bomb
I hope SD has the balls to step up and show Nexon that the game is far away from being reday to get a NDA Lift. I mean there are so many issues you better not have public coughplayer retention cough
I mean even the SD fanboys dont play this game very often, so why opening up everything? Just because Nexon does care about money only? Well, imo thats not a samrt move …[/QUOTE]
I agree with this. Definitions are warping and DB’s current state isn’t what most people consider alpha any longer.
SD is missing 50% of the game yet… I would assume that at least 40% of that would need to be added before the NDA or open Beta is out…
The patch this week better be big!!!
Match Making Test 2?
Rank Play Test with Match Making? LOL type system…
Store?
Add-On Sights?
More Crates?
One New/Old Map back in
Another Pass on other maps…
New Mercs
Old Mercs back in…
Skins
SW Mode Tweaks
OBJ Tweaks…
These are big and not in the game yet!
SD is still working on Balance and maps!!! Mind you this is balance with out add-on sights too! Add-on sights is going to increase the TTK by 35% at close/mid to far range… OR all the testing that will need to be applied to recoil or taping to counter…
i suggest, pushing all effort to the best maps(2-3) we currently have, finish them, throw away other for some time.
and make a temporary ‘open beta’ for a month, and then get into work for another 3-4 monthes. with servers available only for beta testers again.
you’ll get players all around excited, but they will not have the time to find some deepest unfinished parts of gameplay - they will only learn maps, and mercs for that time.
I’d go first with 4 maps of execution and let people get used to movement, mercs and weapons. This could stay in open beta to get more data. Then when ready, bring in new features one after the other and make a progressive introduction of the game to the public.
This will reinforce the feeling that players do matter in the outcome of the game while letting the players know this is still under work so they don’t get spooked and go away if something is not pleasing them yet.
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You trying to post about sexy poop Nail O_o. Don’t worry, I’m not gonna judge.[/QUOTE]
nope, just noticing they’ve gone from a forum where the F bomb was dropped constantly to one where “poop” is censored, shows your publisher is going to treat everyone as a 10 yr old girl, Alphas, your core players are opinionated educated guys, those forums are set up to reward people who suck up not speak up. I already know a few members who will thrive
Hey chaps,
It’s understandable that some of you may feel it a tad early to open up Dirty Bomb to the wider world, after all we fully intend to develop the game a great deal further. With that said, DB isn’t a boxed product. One of the attractions of F2P was that it would allow us to continue to develop and support the game for a long time to come. DB won’t be feature complete or bordering on its maximum level of polish when the NDA lifts. That is entirely ok. Dirty Bomb is by no means finished, but we do feel that it’s ready for the next step as far as introducing the game to the wider world goes.
It’s worth pointing out that Dirty Bomb will remain in Closed Beta when the NDA initially lifts. New players will be introduced to the CB, the first time that more than a handful of new players have jumped onboard at any one time in ~ 4 months.
Retention has been highlighted by some here as a concern. That’s fair; it wasn’t a massive strength 4 months ago. That’s largely due to little having actually been done to specifically target retention. We’ve done some work on that over the last while. Limited tests have shown that there have been improvements, although we have additional plans for retention updates later down the line too.
Nail there’s a fair bit of room for tweaking and adjusting that forum yet. It’s entirely possible that your concerns will vanish
[QUOTE=Silvanoshi;513791]Hey chaps,
It’s understandable that some of you may feel it a tad early to open up Dirty Bomb to the wider world, after all we fully intend to develop the game a great deal further. With that said, DB isn’t a boxed product. One of the attractions of F2P was that it would allow us to continue to develop and support the game for a long time to come. DB won’t be feature complete or bordering on its maximum level of polish when the NDA lifts. That is entirely ok. Dirty Bomb is by no means finished, but we do feel that it’s ready for the next step as far as introducing the game to the wider world goes.
It’s worth pointing out that Dirty Bomb will remain in Closed Beta when the NDA initially lifts. New players will be introduced to the CB, the first time that more than a handful of new players have jumped onboard at any one time in ~ 4 months.
Retention has been highlighted by some here as a concern. That’s fair; it wasn’t a massive strength 4 months ago. That’s largely due to little having actually been done to specifically target retention. We’ve done some work on that over the last while. Limited tests have shown that there have been improvements, although we have additional plans for retention updates later down the line too.
Nail there’s a fair bit of room for tweaking and adjusting that forum yet. It’s entirely possible that your concerns will vanish[/QUOTE]
Cool Post…
I will Twitch Dirty Bomb and I assume others will to and that will bring attention to DB even when Closed Beta…
When will DB be receiving built in Twitch?
Retention is huge! Crates and unlocks are not going to cut it so I hope you have a ranking system right out of the gate… Or Detailed W/L stats and gun/merc stats… Or maybe customizable weapons… Global player leader-board would be huge…
Seems fine to me to lift NDA soon under the notion that it’s all about DB the constantly evolving idea rather than DB the final game. If the general notion is of interest, then people will want to contribute input on future development. If SD is serious about supporting the game and allowing it to progress much further than tiny tweaks then as a general game consumer I’d be very interested, especially as a F2P.