New Merc Speculation(Master Thread)


(JesseKomm) #201

[quote=“Mister__Wiggles;73569”]@Amerika
Does anyone actually use phantom for anything other than the katana? I still haven’t encountered a phantom that doesn’t run at me aimlessly with his katana…[/quote]

I’ve seen a few use their primary weapon only, the katana can be annoying for slow mercs like Rhino(Especially since for some reason 39 minigun rounds to the face doesn’t kill Phantom when he’s right in front of you). The ones that actually use guns seem to be better players, but overall everyone is terrible at the merc.


(Amerika) #202

[quote=“Mister__Wiggles;73569”]@Amerika
Does anyone actually use phantom for anything other than the katana? I still haven’t encountered a phantom that doesn’t run at me aimlessly with his katana…[/quote]

Yes. This is an older video (day 2 Phantom) but I play him like this with the same results pretty much every single day. There is a reason why all the, “Phantom is horrible” posts drive me nuts when they mean, “Phantom’s melee isn’t as cheap as it used to be”.


(Jostabeere) #203

Are you talking about Phantom or Katana Only Phantom?[/quote]
A real invisible cloaked melee-merc as he was introduced in the trailer. Not a guy with a visible force-shield full of bees, an SMG and a crippled melee.


(LANshark) #204

there is now confusion on who will released next.
Is it phoenix? stoker? Turtle? Fletcher? Fletcher 2?
The world may never know (until the update)


(Amerika) #205

Are you talking about Phantom or Katana Only Phantom?[/quote]
A real invisible cloaked melee-merc as he was introduced in the trailer. Not a guy with a visible force-shield full of bees, an SMG and a crippled melee.
[/quote]

You mean this trailer? The one that doesn’t introduce him as a melee only merc and only talks about introducing the Katana that will be used by other mercs in the future? Where does it say that he’s melee only? They even say refractive armor and “almost entirely invisible” specifically.

Let’s not turn this into a Phantom thread though so we should move to the Merc forum where there are already plenty of discussions on this topic.


(brennanfreak) #206

If it’s not Phoenix and it’s Stoker instead I will cry myself to sleep every night till he does.


(Jostabeere) #207

Are you talking about Phantom or Katana Only Phantom?[/quote]
A real invisible cloaked melee-merc as he was introduced in the trailer. Not a guy with a visible force-shield full of bees, an SMG and a crippled melee.
[/quote]

You mean this trailer? The one that doesn’t introduce him as a melee only merc and only talks about introducing the Katana that will be used by other mercs in the future? Where does it say that he’s melee only? They even say refractive armor and “almost entirely invisible” specifically.

Let’s not turn this into a Phantom thread though so we should move to the Merc forum where there are already plenty of discussions on this topic.[/quote]


This one. You see, you don’t see him at all. With the current situation Vassili would hear his cloak. Things change, but still. I wouldn’t mind no primary gun at all on Phantom. It would be much better imo because you could play a total different playstyle. Same for multiple mercs. Like Fletcher without a primary but with more Stickies. Technically like Sparks was made.
Edit: I mean, he looks like a Samurai, why wouldn’t he be a melee-main-merc in the first place?

(Amerika) #208

Are you talking about Phantom or Katana Only Phantom?[/quote]
A real invisible cloaked melee-merc as he was introduced in the trailer. Not a guy with a visible force-shield full of bees, an SMG and a crippled melee.
[/quote]

You mean this trailer? The one that doesn’t introduce him as a melee only merc and only talks about introducing the Katana that will be used by other mercs in the future? Where does it say that he’s melee only? They even say refractive armor and “almost entirely invisible” specifically.

Let’s not turn this into a Phantom thread though so we should move to the Merc forum where there are already plenty of discussions on this topic.[/quote]


This one. You see, you don’t see him at all. With the current situation Vassili would hear his cloak. Things change, but still. I wouldn’t mind no primary gun at all on Phantom. It would be much better imo because you could play a total different playstyle. Same for multiple mercs. Like Fletcher without a primary but with more Stickies. Technically like Sparks was made.
Edit: I mean, he looks like a Samurai, why wouldn’t he be a melee-main-merc in the first place?[/quote]

That’s a CGI trailer and not a gameplay trailer. There are a ton of things in that trailer which aren’t accurate in regards to the actual game. Phantom also has a pistol only and Nader KO’s rhino with a single grenade among other things.

Did you watch this then get upset when StarCraft 2 didn’t look or play anything like this? That goes for almost every other game CGI trailer. Hell, that goes for trailers for movies too as they rarely represent what you actually get.

And the trailer showed him stabbing one Vassili in the back and wasn’t fully invisible while doing it. In fact, he was VERY visible. Looked like a ghost/apparition and he’s harder to see in the game right now. Otherwise he was shooting (a pistol) or not even cloaked in that trailer.

I get that some people want the TF2 spy in Dirty Bomb. I am simply not one of them. I dislike the low amount of skill it required pre-patch and how cheap it is to both use and to die to. I don’t play TF2 for a couple of reasons and the spy is one of those reasons.

Phantom requires some intelligence to play now to maximize your effectiveness with the cloak so that you have the upperhand in almost all fights. Also, crossing parts of a map with a ton of people shooting in the area makes the cloak invaluable as a shield since you don’t take any real damage and lets you easily flank without reduced HP which no other merc can accomplish. It’s also great for some crazy escapes.

He also has a Kek10. One of the best weapons in the game. And I believe Phoenix also has access to the Kek10 which makes this post about Phoenix and making it not completely off-topic…I swear. I am excited to have access to a medic with a Kek though.


(ttownjoe) #209

well pheonix does say in game “make sure to eat plenty of fruit”, but then miss murder makes a video showing pheonix in the scoreboard and eating apples… but at the end she drops the apple and it shatters with the sound of stokers glass.


(Jostabeere) #210

@Amerika Yes, Kek is nice an Phoenix will be awesome with it, and I still enjoy Phantom now, but it still feels like hsi role is crippled.


(BushDweller) #211

Ohh Phoenix…Soo no new tactical gameplay :confused:


(Adam) #212

Sure there is. You have to finish people now… Take it from me. If I know the medic is down, I will actually use him as bait if anyone tries to get him up. If the medic is down, and I am against a good team, YOU KNOW FOR SHO the players are going to try to get that medic up. So I will watch her. I can’t nail down a Phenix and watch him now, so aslong as there isn’t another medic on the team, this idea of camping a downed player becomes useless.


(ludicrousBlast) #213

Best twist plot ever! XD Hit the LOL button XD

I wish… If they ever do… It better be closed beta Phantom…
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What was closed beta Phantom like? I did not have closed beta for all that long.


(BushDweller) #214

Sure there is. You have to finish people now… Take it from me. If I know the medic is down, I will actually use him as bait if anyone tries to get him up. If the medic is down, and I am against a good team, YOU KNOW FOR SHO the players are going to try to get that medic up. So I will watch her. I can’t nail down a Phenix and watch him now, so aslong as there isn’t another medic on the team, this idea of camping a downed player becomes useless.[/quote]

Uhh… so you have to finish downed people… a mechanic that a lot of people use already.

You can’t watch a phoenix now…Ooooo…


(Ezmar) #215

Turtle or death .-.


(Jan S.) #216

But Fragger is helpful a lot with a good nade throw.


(Wolffe7) #217

Why not ?


(Eox) #218

I was serious with the dual release thing.

Whatever. :smiley:


(CCP115) #219

[quote=“Eox;73643”]I was serious with the dual release thing.

Whatever. :D[/quote]

The funniest thing was that when Kira and Rhino got double released, there wasn’t even that much reaction.

Now the community anxiously awaits even the smallest hints, I think a double merc release would cause the Nexon HQ to explode.


(tenderLab) #220

@Adam i knew that he was one op guy with m4 and lmg. When i was younger grenades were the meaning of my life and death. I used m60 and grenades. You can see a very good tactical use grenades in cs. All grenades are very important.