Nerf support XP already, it's way over-exaggerated


(Yes) #1

There’s a problem when someone can score 17k as Aura without doing a single revive and only putting down the health station for himself before picking it up and running off.
http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/648877624349291447/D7A4555B8F769FD8DF1C838BF9B977808D0FB7A3/

It’s teach this guy how not to play by rewarding him for being a selfish medic. The same issue applies for other medics, but they are definitely not as bad as Aura.


(Jostabeere) #2

Can you provide any footage of this guy not reviving a single teammate?
Also maybe just me, but you don’t need to revive if you keep the team up with the station.


(Ctrix) #3

How is he getting support XP if he’s not healing others?
Your argument is invalid.


(Yes) #4

[quote=“Ctrix;110641”]How is he getting support XP if he’s not healing others?
Your argument is invalid.[/quote]

Because the health station can heal more than 1 person at a time?


(Ctrix) #5

So what you’re saying is he’s putting the healthstation down where lots of wounded people are. Sooo… being a medic. Making the best out of only having a defensive medic, maybe?


(Yes) #6

[quote=“Jostabeere;110640”]
Also maybe just me, but you don’t need to revive if you keep the team up with the station.[/quote]

But he wasn’t, people were just lucky to be around him when he wanted to heal himself.

But nah, you’re right, he was playing the game 100% correctly, not reviving people right at his fucking feet.


(Yes) #7

Not at all, if someone comes to the health station needing some health just when he finishes healing himself, too fucking bad for that guy.

Are you guys seriously defending retarded play being rewarded way too much?

EDIT: And seriously? “Making the best out of only having a defensive medic”, what, by not using his defibs?


(Mr-Penguin) #8

Er…maybe those 35 kills and Game Mode XP during the game account for a lot of that XP total.

Was that an Objective or Stopwatch game?


(Yes) #9

[quote=“derpypenguinz19;110647”]Er…maybe those 35 kills and Game Mode XP during the game account for a lot of that XP total.

Was that an Objective or Stopwatch game?[/quote]

It was Stopwatch, but that still irrelevant. Both teams only completed the first Objective, and this guy wasn’t the one to plant and there were plenty of people on both teams with more kills with less score.

I got 4 Aces that game and barely scored higher than him.


(Mr-Penguin) #10

There’s no way that Aura got so much Support XP unless they got a lot of Health Insurance bonuses and Revive badges- which incidentally, you don’t get if you’re selfish with your health station.

We need concrete evidence and not just a screenshot of the final scoreboard to make a decision about this. If you had footage or something, we could draw better conclusions. But a single score isn’t enough.


(Yes) #11

[quote=“derpypenguinz19;110650”]There’s no way that Aura got so much Support XP unless they got a lot of Health Insurance bonuses and Revive badges- which incidentally, you don’t get if you’re selfish with your health station.

We need concrete evidence and not just a screenshot of the final scoreboard to make a decision about this. If you had footage or something, we could draw better conclusions. But a single score isn’t enough.[/quote]

Do you not know how the health station works? When it is put down, it has an AOE in which any teammate gets healed, not just who the Aura chooses. That means if someone happens to be around the Aura when the guy wanted his heal, they would get healed as well.

And we don’t need a fucking video. Why would I be posting this if it didn’t happen?


(MilkyBear) #12

As a medic player, i think the exp is fine. I want something back you know, when i risk my life, jump into a firefight and trying to keep everyone alive.


(Yes) #13

I play medic often as well, but the way it is now, people get rewarded for bad play. It doesn’t occur for combat and game XP, so why should it for support?


(Jostabeere) #14

[quote=“Clown;110651”][quote=“derpypenguinz19;110650”]There’s no way that Aura got so much Support XP unless they got a lot of Health Insurance bonuses and Revive badges- which incidentally, you don’t get if you’re selfish with your health station.

We need concrete evidence and not just a screenshot of the final scoreboard to make a decision about this. If you had footage or something, we could draw better conclusions. But a single score isn’t enough.[/quote]

Do you not know how the health station works? When it is put down, it has an AOE in which any teammate gets healed, not just who the Aura chooses. That means if someone happens to be around the Aura when the guy wanted his heal, they would get healed as well.

And we don’t need a fucking video. Why would I be posting this if it didn’t happen?[/quote]

We know how the station works. But first you say “He only put it down for himself = He’s a bad medic” And now “there were people in his station by luck” which means even if it was luck, he did his role right.
May I ask you: You spectated him through the game to know what he exactly did and what not?


(Yes) #15

[quote=“Jostabeere;110660”][quote=“Clown;110651”][quote=“derpypenguinz19;110650”]There’s no way that Aura got so much Support XP unless they got a lot of Health Insurance bonuses and Revive badges- which incidentally, you don’t get if you’re selfish with your health station.

We need concrete evidence and not just a screenshot of the final scoreboard to make a decision about this. If you had footage or something, we could draw better conclusions. But a single score isn’t enough.[/quote]

Do you not know how the health station works? When it is put down, it has an AOE in which any teammate gets healed, not just who the Aura chooses. That means if someone happens to be around the Aura when the guy wanted his heal, they would get healed as well.

And we don’t need a fucking video. Why would I be posting this if it didn’t happen?[/quote]

We know how the station works. But first you say “He only put it down for himself = He’s a bad medic” And now “there were people in his station by luck” which means even if it was luck, he did his role right.[/quote]

He didn’t do his role right if he never revived anyone and didn’t care about anyone else’s HP at all.

Me: “He never revived anyone.”
You: “Well, that’s because he was keeping everyone alive.”
Me: “He was only playing attention to his own health, completely neglecting the team.”
You: “Then how did he get support XP?”
Me: “Because people were lucky enough to get caught in the AOE of the health station.”
You: “Aha! So he was healing people, he did a good job then!”

Do the other posts I write just vacate your head whenever you read a new one?

Here’s a common situation, I run to the health station to get healed, but he picks it up just as I got there so I get less than 10hp. I then get an ace and he gets a shit ton XP, even though I didn’t get healed properly.


(MilkyBear) #16

I play medic often as well, but the way it is now, people get rewarded for bad play. It doesn’t occur for combat and game XP, so why should it for support?[/quote]

If a medic is bad, he will get nothing out of it. You only get exp from actual supporting your team. Keeping your team alive is much harder than point and shoot anyway.


(Yes) #17

I play medic often as well, but the way it is now, people get rewarded for bad play. It doesn’t occur for combat and game XP, so why should it for support?[/quote]

If a medic is bad, he will get nothing out of it. You only get exp from actual supporting your team. Keeping your team alive is much harder than point and shoot anyway.[/quote]

Except that’s not the case when it comes to Aura (and partly Phoenix). Which is the entire point of this thread. The health insurance XP has made it so that support XP missions can easily be done in 1 objective game.


(DeadAlive) #18

With that much xp, I wouldn’t exactly call him a lousy player, I mean, you get that from healing people. If he’s not planting in prime spots, well, you can politely ask in chat to move it, but otherwise…


(XavienX) #19

[quote=“Clown;20299”]There’s a problem when someone can score 17k as Aura without doing a single revive and only putting down the health station for himself before picking it up and running off.
[/quote]

This is what everyone is referring to dude. You’re saying he is healing himself which doesn’t make sense cause he has that many points but you said to nerf support xp but you get no xp if you just heal yourself.


(Yes) #20

[quote=“Xavien;110682”][quote=“Clown;20299”]There’s a problem when someone can score 17k as Aura without doing a single revive and only putting down the health station for himself before picking it up and running off.
[/quote]

This is what everyone is referring to dude. You’re saying he is healing himself which doesn’t make sense cause he has that many points but you said to nerf support xp but you get no xp if you just heal yourself.[/quote]

Only putting it down for himself doesn’t mean no one else got caught in the radius, it means he only considered his own HP when he put it down and picked it back up when he was topped up.