Name stealing problems (ATTN SPLASH DAMAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)


(SCDS_reyalP) #21

There is another option which a few of us have discussed.

  • ET would still be free, but some group (either run by the community or evenbalance/id/activision) would allow you to register your GUID for a nominal fee.
  • The purpose of the fee is to make getting a new GUID costly enough that people who got banned wouldn’t want to do it very often. I suspect that even $10 would be pretty effective. The system itself should be very cheap to run, so, if run by the community, any excess collected could be given to a worthy cause.
  • A server option would be added so that server admins could (at their own option) require registered GUIDs. While this would be easier with support from evenbalance, it could probably be done with a mod or even an admin bot. Whenever someone joined, it would simply check their GUID against the registered list, and kick them with an informative message if they were not found.
  • The fact that you can get a new GUID for free wouldn’t matter, because you would have to pay to register it. The GUID generation code would not have to change, nor would your GUID need to be associated with anything unreliable like a MAC or IP.
  • adding nick registration to this would be trivial.

There are a few possible problems:

  • Charging money might be against the commercial exploitation terms of the EULA, and so might require a commercial exploitation license from id/activision. If they didn’t like the idea, that could be hard to get. Having the money collected got to a charity might or might not help with this.

  • If not enough people signed up, then the registered only servers would not have sufficient population.

  • As with CD keys, there could be problems with people stealing etkey files or playing from other peoples machines.

  • the system would almost certianly be subject to network attacks from cheaters/lamers. This could be a pain for whoever ran it.


(gonzoboi) #22

Enemy Territory is free and it’s given me hours of great fun, and hopefully will continue to do so. Since it’s free, I can accept stupid pre-teenagers, bored misanthropes, hideous wankers and nazi lowlives hanging around the servers. If i ever run across one of them, i just ignore him (hint: i have the TK complaint popup disabled: and i noticed i dont get as pissed off as i used to get before as i furiously hit F1: you people should try it and you’ll see it enhances gameplay). If the person is simply too annoying, i quit the server and join another one… i don’t usually whine to admins since lots of them are even worse than the tk’er/hopeless idiot breed and seem to obtain great pleasure from arbitrary acts of power.

I just don’t care too much, because i don’t take the game too seriously… i just want to have a coffee and a smoke and do some shooting when i come home back from work… so x-atlas if its really THAT important for you, i guess you can join a clan or arrange for serious game with other people (would be nice if the forums were used for arranging matches, not l33t clan stuff but just people who love the game and want to have some good fun)… i’m sure there are many ways to get rid of the pub servers’ undesirable inhabitants without having to force people to pay…

:drink:


(funkPig) #23

I have been playing since the single map test and I really havent seen that much of this. I always play public servers.

Do i just pick servers with excellent people? Sometimes. I noticed a few days ago that I was playing on a server with (it seemed) 12 yr olds. I simply disconnected and joined a new game.

Are you picking poor servers? Possibly. Try looking for new servers to play on. There are several out there.

I have a feeling that the tk’er got what he wanted and severly pissed you off (feuling his unsocial behavior i’m sure :poke: ), which is why you posted. I beg you to come back in a few days after playing on a decent server and tell us how much fun you had. :cool:


(-[x]-Atlas) #24

Ok… I am in a clan and we do have scrims with other people. And the other thing is, I play on several server and find ones that I like to play on all the time. What I DON’T want to do is to keep server hopping because I don’t “like” what players in server 1 are doing and I also shouldn’t have to put “REAL” in front of my name because some moron thinks it is funny to take peoples names and cause problems.

And registering your name or anything like that with PB really won’t do anything or be effective anyway because the problem is - <u>there is no way to permanently ban or kick problem players</u>. That is why I suggest assigning a key. The suggestion to require a CDKEY from RTCW is just one idea. And there are several other great idea’s on this topic that would work.


(Pirate_X) #25

Interesting idea… I’ve just got a question on one point though… In what you’re suggesting, if my ET gets p00ched, and I need to uninstall/reinstall, won’t that generate a new GUID? What if I already paid to register one?

Honestly, I hope that it wouldn’t come to this… I just tend to play on servers that have an admin around most of the time… Play on the same servers regularly, the admins will begin to recognize you and I’m sure they would think something was up if all of a sudden they saw somebody with your name that was just TK’ing…

However, I want to say that if it came to the point of a registration, reg’ing a GUID is certainly a lot more sane than requiring a RTCW key… They’re two seperate games! In that case, they might as well require a Wolfenstein 3D key…


(SCDS_reyalP) #26

You would be advised to back up your etkey file somewhere safe. Then, if you had to re-install, you could just copy it back in. If you didn’t, then it would be the same as losing your RTCW CD, and having your hardisk crash. You have to buy a new copy.

Even so, at $10 per GUID registration this wouldn’t be a huge deal. But for someone who got banned from 10 different servers, that would be $100. I doubt most of the cheaters/tkers/lamers would be into that. They would proably just stick to the free servers…

BTW, I agree with you, that at this point it is not a huge problem, and even if this sort of thing could be set up legally, I have my doubts of whether there would be a big enough player base for it to work.


([B]Visa) #27

Well at this point, I’ve never had anyone copy my name, I’ve only seen it happen to other people…

However, to discourage them I have some funky colors and in addition to my [B] tag, every letter of “Visa” is a different color… If they want to spend 5 minutes of their time in-game to figure out the colors then good luck :cool:

Ike-T


(pw50King) #28

I use the ~ in my name so they cant steal my name in game :slight_smile: