My Return Review of the game.

[Demolama]

@ValyrianKaos said:

I think this game has gone from a skill based game to a casual OP abilities spamming game where people are just waiting for cooldowns to guarantee there next kill.

Ding Ding Ding… give this man a prize.

[OCB-Wildcard]

@Demolama said:

@ValyrianKaos said:

I think this game has gone from a skill based game to a casual OP abilities spamming game where people are just waiting for cooldowns to guarantee there next kill.

Ding Ding Ding… give this man a prize.

There are exceptions to this, of course. But in all fairness this has been the meta outside 5v5 for a long time in DB; I have no clue how you got the impression it wasn’t and where you got it from, but I digress. That aside though I appreciate the sarcastic humor @Demolama xD

[Demolama]

@K1X455 said:
It’s true that this game is no longer about better aim. SD has brought together one of the most conflicting concept of fast paced shooter and long TTK so they have ingeniously introduced “horizontal recoil” to add random effect per shot on popular weapons of choice like the Stark, Dreiss and BR-16 whose damage output is so high, it’s the go to choice of seasoned players. As for the rest who are stuck on the spray-n-pray tactic, they miss out and complain (and so far, that’s all they ever do). It’s the brutal cycle of “I don’t like dieing to shotguns, burst rifles, click spammers, sniper rifles, cheesy and explosive kills, or anything that makes me look like a total noob”, cause I don’t like how my feelings being violated (specially when the player is streaming his gameplay on Twitch).

soooo one shot kill weapons are “more skillful” than weapons that require tracking the head more than just once. okay… lol The current crop of db “vets” these days are just a big joke.

[Eox]

@stayfreshshoe said:
Welcome back! And thank you for your insight. It’s interesting to see how you feel about the game, especially for being away for so long. Javelin has been iterated upon and balanced a few times since her release and is in a much better place now, but surprise rockets can be a bit…surprising still.

Stoker’s molotovs are very strong, but they’re designed to be specifically so they can be used for area denial. Having them do less damage over time was considered, however that would go against the core design of the ability.

How about delaying the explosion and the flame AoE (if direct mollies are an issue) ? It would allow players to flee but still make the molotov retain it’s utility as an area denial tool. As a compensation, the burning AoE of the molly could be raised a bit.

[GatoCommodore]

mollies arent exactly instant and you could survive it with only taking something like 20 damage.

[K1X455]

@Eox said:

How about delaying the explosion and the flame AoE (if direct mollies are an issue) ? It would allow players to flee but still make the molotov retain it’s utility as an area denial tool. As a compensation, the burning AoE of the molly could be raised a bit.

At the pace of the game, any delayed effect of the molotov will render it useless as 100HP or less mercs can outrun it. I’ve seen Arty outrun Proxy’s mine explosion. I’ve even seen Phoenix outrun Nader’s Marty… and that one is also broken in terms of game speed (it needs about 33% less activation time).

[GatoCommodore]

@K1X455 said:

@Eox said:

How about delaying the explosion and the flame AoE (if direct mollies are an issue) ? It would allow players to flee but still make the molotov retain it’s utility as an area denial tool. As a compensation, the burning AoE of the molly could be raised a bit.

At the pace of the game, any delayed effect of the molotov will render it useless as 100HP or less mercs can outrun it. I’ve seen Arty outrun Proxy’s mine explosion. I’ve even seen Phoenix outrun Nader’s Marty… and that one is also broken in terms of game speed (it needs about 33% less activation time).

can only get outrun without the lock on
nearly impossible with the lock on, even more frustrating because the default now has lock on.

[K1X455]

@GatoCommodore said:

At the pace of the game, any delayed effect of the molotov will render it useless as 100HP or less mercs can outrun it. I’ve seen Arty outrun Proxy’s mine explosion. I’ve even seen Phoenix outrun Nader’s Marty… and that one is also broken in terms of game speed (it needs about 33% less activation time).

can only get outrun without the lock on
nearly impossible with the lock on, even more frustrating because the default now has lock on.

Stoker has no Lock On augment. If you were referring to Proxy’s mine, yeah, but I was referring to Stoker’s molotov.

[doxjq]

@Demolama said:

@K1X455 said:
It’s true that this game is no longer about better aim. SD has brought together one of the most conflicting concept of fast paced shooter and long TTK so they have ingeniously introduced “horizontal recoil” to add random effect per shot on popular weapons of choice like the Stark, Dreiss and BR-16 whose damage output is so high, it’s the go to choice of seasoned players. As for the rest who are stuck on the spray-n-pray tactic, they miss out and complain (and so far, that’s all they ever do). It’s the brutal cycle of “I don’t like dieing to shotguns, burst rifles, click spammers, sniper rifles, cheesy and explosive kills, or anything that makes me look like a total noob”, cause I don’t like how my feelings being violated (specially when the player is streaming his gameplay on Twitch).

soooo one shot kill weapons are “more skillful” than weapons that require tracking the head more than just once. okay… lol The current crop of db “vets” these days are just a big joke.

That’s not what he said at all. I think you have completely misinterpreted his post…

[ValyrianKaos]

Well I guess it’s another good bye. It was fun while it lasted. Phantom is now back and more lame then ever. I will honestly say i think it’s worse then 1st release. Completely ruined the game again.

I stupidly bought the all merc pack and bought a load of cases. What a complete fool i am. The power i hindsight aye? I just didn’t think they would be so stupid to bring him back again considering he was one of the main reasons they lost so many people in the 1st place. Take care.