My problem with shotguns and the k121

(smartIsland) #1

The TTK in this game is approx 3-5 (2-3 with headshots) and revolves around strong upper chest, neck and head accuracy. I get that.

My biggest issue with the shotties and k121 is that they have a TTK of 1-3 with BODY SHOTS, which require much less accuracy on a much larger hitbox.

Yes the k121 takes a while to reload but it has 50+ rounds… yes the shotguns have low clip size but I still feel they are too powerful. Increase K121 recoil and spread, reduce shotgun damage per pellet

TLDR: shotguns and k121 let people have a headshot ttk while merely aiming for bodies

(crooKk) #2

Can I see the math on this?

(Kroad) #3

it’s absurd to count ttk in terms of shots, else sniper has the lowest ttk

k121 is a very powerful gun, could do with a nerf, but the stats you listed are wrong (you’re not going to kill anyone in 1-3 bodyshots, takes like 4+ to kill aura)

shotguns are not op, yes they kill in 1-3 bodyshots but the time between shots is larger

(Ribero) #4

As Kroad mentioned, Time To Kill and Shots/Hits To Kill are two different things.
Just as a heads up for you, OP.

(Amerika) #5

[quote=“smartIsland;2373”]The TTK in this game is approx 3-5 (2-3 with headshots) and revolves around strong upper chest, neck and head accuracy. I get that.

My biggest issue with the shotties and k121 is that they have a TTK of 1-3 with BODY SHOTS, which require much less accuracy on a much larger hitbox.

Yes the k121 takes a while to reload but it has 50+ rounds… yes the shotguns have low clip size but I still feel they are too powerful. Increase K121 recoil and spread, reduce shotgun damage per pellet

TLDR: shotguns and k121 let people have a headshot ttk while merely aiming for bodies[/quote]

Uhh, no, they don’t. Instead of starting up a forum thread griping about this you might want to grab a friend on a server and actually test this because your numbers are way off. It would have taken 5 minutes to resolve this issue for yourself.

(syku) #6

Here is a picture of how many bodyshots it takes to kill a merc with the K-121 http://i.imgur.com/jSOpC4G.png
, next time you want to make a thread like this first try to use your brain and look at the stats for the weapons, instead of making wild assumptions about them.

(Eox) #7

[quote=“Kroad;14589”]
shotguns are not op, yes they kill in 1-3 bodyshots but the time between shots is larger[/quote]

Time between shots is a thing, but actually the real reason why shotguns aren’t overpowered in my opinion is their spread, making them much less useful at longer ranges, where other weapons will keep their killing potential at their fullest. They hit hard but you need to be near your target, and getting closer to something can be really hard and dangerous.