mouse acceleration

(ghostile) #1

yeh um mouse acceleration command in console please or in option its not like u would want the same mouse speed for someone at range compared to right in front of u with mouse accel u are able to move mouse faster as the enemy is in close range and moves a hell lot faster at point blank specialy with sliding mechanics and other movement abilities so u dont have to always have a high sensitivity u just flick faster with the mouse etc. to not have mouse accel in this game or any fps game is like not having wheels on your car.

hopefully see it in the next patch?

(KaZuK) #2

If you use mouse accel you’re straight up BAD.

(GR0MIT) #3

^^ What he said.

(Senyin) #4

I call BS :slight_smile:
Everyone has his/her own preference and are usually doing well with it.
It’s all a matter of what you are used to.
Personally I hate mouse accel but many people need it so why not give it to them?
To each their own.

(Litego) #5

[QUOTE=Senyin;309576]I call BS :slight_smile:
Everyone has his/her own preference and are usually doing well with it.
It’s all a matter of what you are used to.
Personally I hate mouse accel but many people need it so why not give it to them?
To each their own.[/QUOTE]

Well, aim is all about muscle memory. If the distance you move your mouse is different depending on speed you will never be as accurate as without mouse accel. However I agree that if people want it they should be able to use it no matter how bad it is.

Also, hey KaZuK!

(Senyin) #6

Wouldn’t the accel be in his muscle memory too though?

(Litego) #7

Its a variable, its much much harder to memorize. But sure to a certain degree it would. But if the OP where to stop using mouse accel he would at first play bad, but as he starts to adjust I can asure you that he would become more accurate.

If the OP uses a very low sens or tiny mouse pad there is a better alternative to mouse accel. He could use a gaming mice and switch between DPI settings depending on distance to the target. This will set the mouse to fixed sens instead of being a variable one.

(Senyin) #8

[QUOTE=Litego;309665]Its a variable, its much much harder to memorize. But sure to a certain degree it would. But if the OP where to stop using mouse accel he would at first play bad, but as he starts to adjust I can asure you that he would become more accurate.

If the OP uses a very low sens or tiny mouse pad there is a better alternative to mouse accel. He could use a gaming mice and switch between DPI settings depending on distance to the target. This will set the mouse to fixed sens instead of being a variable one.[/QUOTE]

Makes total sense :slight_smile:

(ghostile) #9

its funny cause id love to 1v1 u in any old game with mouse accel take ur pic

not to mention the person down below said its harder which actualy makes me better as i am able to utilize it to my advantage so yeh logic flawed u.

also most of u dont understand the concept of mouse accel as i bet most of u use a crosshair where as i dont need one years of playing games without a crosshair.

lol and yeh aiming is aiming we all have different methods and depends on the games pace and style.

(ChadCalhoun) #10

There are pro quake 3 players that use mouse accel.

(ghostile) #11

um yes i know for a fact zlr does and many others in quakelive

(KaZuK) #12

I’m sure there are some good players that use mouse accel, but they won’t ever get as good as the people that don’t.

(Ino) #13

I hate mouseaccel, but it’s true, some of the best quake players used mouseaccel, but that’s the good thing about quake, you can scale how much accel you want.

I know for a fact that fojji used accel, and he was one of the best around.

And again: options are always good, so why should they not give options for accel?

(KaZuK) #14

[QUOTE=ghostile;311740]its funny cause id love to 1v1 u in any old game with mouse accel take ur pic

not to mention the person down below said its harder which actualy makes me better as i am able to utilize it to my advantage so yeh logic flawed u.

also most of u dont understand the concept of mouse accel as i bet most of u use a crosshair where as i dont need one years of playing games without a crosshair.

lol and yeh aiming is aiming we all have different methods and depends on the games pace and style.[/QUOTE]

What the **** are you talking about lmao, understanding the concept of mouse accel by not using a crosshair?

I’m able to do a 360, 180, 90 turn with my eyes closed at any speed, in the last 10 years i’ve kept my senstitivity the same for each game, brink is no different. I’m just saying you’re limiting yourself to the things you can do by using mouse acceleration and no you can’t do more things, once you have a mousemat that is big enough and a sensitivity that can do everything, you can do everything.

(ghostile) #15

[QUOTE=KaZuK;312024]What the **** are you talking about lmao, understanding the concept of mouse accel by not using a crosshair?

I’m able to do a 360, 180, 90 turn with my eyes closed at any speed, in the last 10 years i’ve kept my senstitivity the same for each game, brink is no different. I’m just saying you’re limiting yourself to the things you can do by using mouse acceleration and no you can’t do more things, once you have a mousemat that is big enough and a sensitivity that can do everything, you can do everything.[/QUOTE]

thats where ur wrong.

(Aristotle) #16

I thought for sure the OP was a console gamer from just skimming bits and pieces of his post and seeing all the missing punctuation and grammatical/spelling errors. I was sad to see that he was a PC gamer upon actually reading his message. Honestly, is it that hard to spell the word “you” and add a period to the end of your sentences? They still teach that **** in school don’t they?

Anyway, on topic, I would say I have to agree with Kazuk. I’ve been using my Logitech G3 since it came out and haven’t ever had to change my sensitivities for any of the games I’ve played since. If you get a good gaming mouse and learn to play with it, you will be better off in my opinion.

Also.

Care to elaborate and tell us why and where he was wrong? Or is that all you can say to argue with his point?

(sh0otM3) #17

its all depends on peoples choice, if u dont like mouse accel then dont use it, dont need to start calling people bad or noob if they do. why the hell do u care if they play bad. my point is more option is good.

(ghostile) #18

[QUOTE=Aristotle;313704]I thought for sure the OP was a console gamer from just skimming bits and pieces of his post and seeing all the missing punctuation and grammatical/spelling errors. I was sad to see that he was a PC gamer upon actually reading his message. Honestly, is it that hard to spell the word “you” and add a period to the end of your sentences? They still teach that **** in school don’t they?

Anyway, on topic, I would say I have to agree with Kazuk. I’ve been using my Logitech G3 since it came out and haven’t ever had to change my sensitivities for any of the games I’ve played since. If you get a good gaming mouse and learn to play with it, you will be better off in my opinion.

Also.

Care to elaborate and tell us why and where he was wrong? Or is that all you can say to argue with his point?[/QUOTE]

for 1 why would i use grammar and punct on a forums its not like im applying for a job so what i mean is if i was to care i would be more formal but in this situation i refuse its not necessary. 2 i aint a console gamer ive been in the same clan for 10 years on pc not to mention cbf to pay for a console when my comp can do exactly the same and more.

  1. The arguement is that he is wrong as i quote and if u agree u are clearly wrong as well justified by

kazuk “I’m able to do a 360, 180, 90 turn with my eyes closed at any speed”
ill start with how thats wrong for a start if the speed was 0 u would not be able to turn those degrees.

2nd id love to challenge u doing those degrees whilst watching u because i know u wont be able to if i set the speeds.

3rd kazuk “I’m just saying you’re limiting yourself to the things you can do by using mouse acceleration and no you can’t do more things”. who ever says that is clueless as no im not limiting my self which is even justified by other posters saying of ppl using mouse accel in quakelive being #1 which i know is true because i watch them on the archmsi comp videos not only that they upload there cfg files.

and yes u can do more things ur mouse is set to a constant speed mouse accel can vary meaning i could turn quicker then u can at closer situation which can be proven by math.
and another one to flaw the argument of limitation to mouse accel for those people who know old games like the specialists boosting was actualy gained better using mouse accel.

4th “once you have a mousemat that is big enough and a sensitivity that can do everything”
lol realy a mousemat man i got a free encase mouse pad fok knows where its from like 1999 that im still using and its about 15x19 big i dont see why you would need such big space to being with oh wait i do see a reason ppl who dont use mouseaccel. err and yeh a sensitivity that can do everything well tbh mouse accel is actualy 1/2 the way there to doing everything if anything a standard sensitivity is not even close to be able to do everything as mention its unable to adjust speed upon distance u r from the target unless u script or bind sensitivites but is redundant if u have mouse accel also i know people are saying dpi buttons on mouses for those who dont give a **** for a mouse like me mouse accel would make it so u dont need a $100 mouse that is why i just feel like some mouse accel option in all games.

btw Aristotle i love an argument and there it is have fun reading of why his wrong and u. i will be waiting for any arguement u have as to why he isnt i dont see how u could as i pretty much flawed wat his said by each quote. also im not blaming mouse accel for not being good im actualy quite good i love proving it its just the type of gamer i am id openly admit it im sure many of us are gamers for pure reason to compete against others etc some play just for fun but yeh as before mouse accel should just be an option in all games like invert y axis and if u did’nt know i use invert y axis as well.

and im confused as to why they would take out options that have been in games for a long time now its not like people would complain because they would simply just turn them off.

(Ino) #19

[QUOTE=ghostile;313934]for 1 why would i use grammar and punct on a forums its not like im applying for a job so what i mean is if i was to care i would be more formal but in this situation i refuse its not necessary. 2 i aint a console gamer ive been in the same clan for 10 years on pc not to mention cbf to pay for a console when my comp can do exactly the same and more.

  1. The arguement is that he is wrong as i quote and if u agree u are clearly wrong as well justified by

kazuk “I’m able to do a 360, 180, 90 turn with my eyes closed at any speed”
ill start with how thats wrong for a start if the speed was 0 u would not be able to turn those degrees.

2nd id love to challenge u doing those degrees whilst watching u because i know u wont be able to if i set the speeds.
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lol, proper interpunctuation should always be apllied because it’s really hard for anyone to read what you wrote without it.

Also: smartass comment with the “at 0 speed you can’t turn” D’Oh! But at any other speed he will be able to to 90, 180, 360 turns, just because the distance is in his muscle memory. At least I know I can. That’s the benefit of not playing with accel. The speed of your movement becomes irrelevent, you just need to know the right distance. That’s why most Pros in aimheavy games like CS never (NEVER!) use mouseaccel.

The only reason people in Quake games used it was that they had a very low general sens (for better aiming) but needed some quick turns for faster movement. And as movement is as important in quake as aiming you just need to find the perfect settings for you. Having accel though always means that you tradeoff with perfect aim.

No back to the point: I agree with you that there should be an option for accel, simply because there’s no reason not to allow people who want to play with accel not to do it.

(ghostile) #20

[QUOTE=Ino;314039]lol, proper interpunctuation should always be apllied because it’s really hard for anyone to read what you wrote without it.

Also: smartass comment with the “at 0 speed you can’t turn” D’Oh! But at any other speed he will be able to to 90, 180, 360 turns, just because the distance is in his muscle memory. At least I know I can. That’s the benefit of not playing with accel. The speed of your movement becomes irrelevent, you just need to know the right distance. That’s why most Pros in aimheavy games like CS never (NEVER!) use mouseaccel.
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lol cs ? realy that game was ez enuff without a crosshair it wasent hard to aim in it at all also u just flawed with muscle memory ?

that term is used but how can u justify he has muscle memory of sensitivity of 60 when im pretty sure most of people havent used hence how can he reproduce something that was muscle memory aka (previously used to) when they havent been using that sensitivty or with somthing that he isnt used to.

also then to go in more depth how can he reproduce steady an accurate shots at different distance with different sensitivty. so basicly having mouse accel on or off is not an issue with memory muscle is wat im saying as they will both have the same issue.

so no “That’s the benefit of not playing with accel” is wrong.

btw just to put a cherry on top i can use sensitivity without mouse accel fine as mouse accel and its term is mouse acceleration meaning if i was to make the mouse accelerate eg moving the mouse really fast i just expected it to look faster to the right or left up down etc which means im not really affected at long distance shots medium as i dont accelerate the mouse, its point blank which is ok with me as someone without mouse accel if u change the speed there whole aiming is ruined because they use the same speed for everything.