Models/Trees Max. Limit?

(Softwar) #1

Hi all,

I’m making a new map (with snowterrain) and I added some snowrocks models…

But is there a max. limit of those models? How many can I place of those?

And the same question for trees…

What’s the max. limit for trees?

:banana: Softwar :banana:

(cementoske) #2

don’t think there’s a limit

(Chruker) #3

I think this depends on how you add them: If you are using misc_gamemodels, that game can cache them and I think that is what you want. If not, and the status of the models needs to be communicated over the network, the limit is 256 - however a lot of other stuff also counts so the limit may be lower.

You may add a couple of the same trees to your map and then after the bsp has been compile, run q3map2 with the -info switch. It will give you some information about your map. What you should be looking for is a line like this:


----- snip ------
Abstracted BSP file components (*actual sizes may differ)
      168 models             6720
----- snip ------

Here I have 168 models, so there is some room up to the 256.

Now try adding a couple more of the same trees, and then check if the number is increasing. Hopefully it will not.

(Softwar) #4

I’m using misc_gamemodels, and I always use the same model…

Good?

:bored: Softwar :bored:

(Ifurita) #5

Just keep in mind that lots of trees are going to eat up a lot of tris and therefore cause a performance/FPS hit.

(SCDS_reyalP) #6

There are also hard limits of 1024 runtime entities, and 2048 compile time entities. The runtime limit includes temporary entities like smoke puffs, players, gibs etc…

/entitylist
will show you a numbered list of runtime entities. misc_gamemodels are runtime, misc_models get baked into the BSP, and so are compile time, AFAIK. This also means that misc_models will not be sent over the network, so for completely static models, they should be used instead of misc_gamemodels. Foliage also gets baked into the BSP, so that might be something to think about if you want a lot of trees.

Of course, unless you are very careful with vis, you will kill your FPS long before you hit these limits.

(Softwar) #7

I wanna use between 30 and 40 trees…

:banana: Softwar :banana: