Mercs in their current state.


(BlazinFox) #1

These are mostly MY opinions and some community complaints I see.

Aimee - Lots of personal experience. She is to be more of an “Unpredictable” merc than anything. I DO NOT have anything against Vas. I just really do prefer Aimee more. Even if Vas may be better.

Arty - He’s fine as far as I know. Haven’t seen any real complaints other than that he’s a pain on Bridge or Chapel.

Aura - Fuck this healing station. But fine any other way.

Bush - I don’t tend to play him so i don’t know what else to say about him. Turret can be very useful and no one knows it’s there. So that’s a plus. Snitch + Turret = Almost certain death. Use this.

Fletcher - Much better now. Little less spammy but eh. I could deal with it before.

Fragger - This happened a while ago. But fuck the 30 second cooldown when it was there. I don’t care if a second grenade made up for it. He’s pretty okay though. Not many complaints that I’ve seen.

Kira - Perfectly fine. Used her a lot before Stoker came out. Loved it. Anyone who plays Kira and does well with her. Good on you.

Nader - People complain that she’s even a merc. Hate the way how a grenade launcher spams grenades like that. Funny huh? She is a little spammy at times. But it’s a grenade launcher. But what can you do?

Phantom - @Shinywindow Said that the 7 second cooldown made him a better phantom player. Making him look around at his surroundings more. Hey people. Do the same thing. I do think that the EMP can be a separate ability. Also to all the people who think the armor should be changed to where it is a little less noisy and you blend in more. Take a look at the backstory and tell me otherwise. It’s EXPERIMENTAL. It’s not a finished product yet, nor will it ever be. Fuck you Reddit

Phoenix - I feel like I’ve seen some complaints. But I can’t really remember. A fairly balanced merc. And you want to see a good Phoenix player. Take a look at @ValkyrieHunter32.

Proxy/‘Minemonkey’ - Go to @Jostabeere for this one.

Red Eye - Again I feel like I’ve seen some complaints. But I’m still not too sure. A nice counter to Stoker. Half the time. Sometimes the smoke doesn’t even extinguish the flames. Balanced merc IMO.

Rhino - I’m biased as all fuck against this merc. I just hate him. Carry on.

Sawbonez - A “better” merc than Phoenix. But I really don’t care. He’s balanced though.

Skyhammer - A good all around starter merc. It’s nice for him to start people out. He’s well balanced.

Sparks - Took some heavy hits (or so people thought) from those “Nerfs”. She still seems fine to me.

Stoker - Love this merc. Versatility and an ability that you can use indoors. Man. He’s so great. I also prefer the Timik over the Stark. Come at me.

Thunder - Like he was at his launch in November but without that flash bug, and his EMP. He’s a great merc.

Vasilli - Your starter Sniper. Man isn’t he a great merc to be on rotation? Not at all. HB sensor is great. If people would use it. He can be very useful if you have a good player playing him.

Turtle - Not yet released. But I highly doubt that he’ll have the shield he currently has. I’ve talked with @Amerika and he came up with the idea of a bubble shield. I liked it. I’ve thought to myself about this, and come up with this idea. This shield would be really useful for arming and disarming C4. Plant the shield down and you have instant protection. From ALL sources. No more molotovs out of no where. No more getting shot at from a distance. But not only that, you can shoot OUT of it. It won’t do as much damage. Around 50% less damage to not make it super OP. It also works as a deployable. A little node that projects the bubble. It can be EMPed, and you can hop in the shield to destroy it. I will say this would NOT be like an ammo station or a healing station. It would not be permanent. Around 10-15 seconds. That’s about it.

This is it! Feedback and anything really is supported. Anything you have wrong just make a comment and I’ll make a change to it. I want this to be a big list. Changing things over time with different updates, and ideas for Turtle. I’ll get rid of my own opinions over time when the community comes to a decision about a merc. So cheers all. And I’ll make a change tomorrow or sooner depending on how much feedback I get today.


(Jostabeere) #2

[quote=“becomingHumdinger;31022”]
Also to all the people who think the armor should be changed to where it is a little less noisy and you blend in more. Take a look at the backstory and tell me otherwise. It’s EXPERIMENTAL. It’s not a finished product yet, nor will it ever be.[/quote]
Well, the armor WAS stealthier and quieter before they nerfed him thanks to Reddit.
And I would like to see him stealthier than now. For some reason everyone, even total newbs seem to see me even when I don’t move and crouch down.


(BlazinFox) #3

This’ll be my “Added to” Comment
Added: “Fuck you Reddit” - Phantom
Added: “I will say this would NOT be like an ammo station or a healing station. It would not be permanent. Around 10-15 seconds. That’s about it.” - Turtle
Added: “She is to be more of an “Unpredictable” merc than anything. I DO NOT have anything against Vas. I just really do prefer Aimee more. Even if Vas may be better.” - Aimee


(ClemClem7) #4

A buble shield can be a real pain if paired with a health station. The way it’ll be balanced can make it very OP, or low tier ability.
Let’s see what devs will do with turtle.


(BlazinFox) #5

[quote=“ClemClem7;191412”]A buble shield can be a real pain if paired with a health station. The way it’ll be balanced can make it very OP, or low tier ability.
Let’s see what devs will do with turtle.[/quote]

I added a timer for how long the shield would last. If you would like it to be shorter or extend the duration. Just tell me


(BananaSlug) #6

the phantom nerf is little annoying, but didnt changed to much
rhino is boring, annoying, needs changes imo
i dont think bubble shield is too good, it would just make suicide plants an effective tactic and that cant happen (dont like the shield idea in general)
i also think that the direct hits on nader could use longer range now it to short imo

rest of mercs seems fine


(BlazinFox) #7

[quote=“BananaSlug;191737”]the phantom nerf is little annoying, but didnt changed to much
rhino is boring, annoying, needs changes imo
i dont think bubble shield is too good, it would just make suicide plants an effective tactic and that cant happen (dont like the shield idea in general)
i also think that the direct hits on nader could use longer range now it to short imo

rest of mercs seems fine[/quote]

You either go with a shield. Or you don’t get turtle. What’s a turtle without it’s shell anyways? And it won’t be a “Suicide Plant” if you live through it, now will it?


(arcaneCanvas) #8

[quote=“BlazinFox;31022”]These are mostly MY opinions and some community complaints I see.

Aimee - Lots of personal experience, and I see many people trying to change her for no real reason. Medics outright counter her (Mainly Aura). I honestly can’t word what I want to say properly. All I really want to say DO NOT CHANGE HER FOR NO REAL REASON. SHE IS FINE AS SHE IS.

Nader - People complain that she’s even a merc. Hate the way how a grenade launcher spams grenades like that. Funny huh? She is a little spammy at times. But it’s a grenade launcher. But what can you do?

.[/quote]

Aimee - still more inferior than Vasilli in terms of spotting and damage dealing
snitch? counterable by simply giving health or finding the snitch and shoot it.
Aimee’s arsenal? still not better than Vasilli’s MOA
Secondary? not as good as vasilli’s machine pistol
health? not as tanky as vasilli
speed? situational and favoured by frontline snipers.
(most of the time, i dont even need to relocate after sniping.)

Nader - the launcher is multitool. Area denial, spam kill, distraction, splash damage before finishing, generator/ev destroyer, or just plainly 2 shot killing machine.
in the hands of experts, nader is a force to be reckoned with.


(BlazinFox) #9

Even though Vasilli may be superior. I just like Aimee more than him. It just takes time for you to even know what to do with her. Some maps you can place the Snitch in areas to where you kinda need Bomb Squad. So that can be a plus


(Dysfnal) #10

But you can place the HB sensor in places even bomb squad won’t see, not to mention it’s easier to use, has a larger radius, and has a shorter cooldown, and doesn’t require LOS


(BlazinFox) #11

Aaaand I really don’t care.


(Herr_Hanz) #12

benefit of using the heartbeat is using it to detect enemies coming from the lift in underground. throw a sensor near the elevator, kill people while you are standing on the balcony, and when you see the red dots go up, prepare to film the 254th take of the ‘the departed’ elevator scene, DB style.

with the snitch i only get a warning once they have alread exited the lift, and i need to hope that there is only 1 person, else they will rush me and overwelm my position, causing me to die most of the time. i have had some nice saves tho.


(BlazinFox) #13

Can I just leave it at “I prefer Aimee over Vasilli”? That’d make my life a lot better