[Map] ctf_maat_b3


(CyburK) #1

hi
here is the new and improved version of ctf_maat

changes are:

  • both teams spawn now in a temple room above ground. this should prevent spawnkilling when the flag carrier is waiting near the home spawn for the own flag to be returned.

  • i rebuilt the spawnpoints so now everybody should get their own spawnpoint.

  • small brushwork here and there.

download here:

http://www.cyburk.net/cyburk_maps/map_files/ctf_maat_b3.pk3

screenshots here:

http://www.cyburk.net/cyburk_maps/bilder_cyburk/ctf_maat_01.jpg
http://www.cyburk.net/cyburk_maps/bilder_cyburk/ctf_maat_02.jpg
http://www.cyburk.net/cyburk_maps/bilder_cyburk/ctf_maat_b3_01.jpg

have fun

cyburk


(nUllSkillZ) #2

Looks nice.
Good work.


(ETdemin) #3

Hi!

Yes :slight_smile: nice ! I like many of his maps !!!

but I think there is a possible problem with the script… of ctf_maat_b3

I do not know where to contact Sir CyburK : some email I have found do not work and I do not see any PM here.

In that case I do not know how to contact him : I am forced to post here (sorry for that).

Problem “do not seem to be linked to a MOD-Server” :

  1. If Axis get a flag : an allies with a flag in the capture zone “do not work” (flag not seen and counter not increase). [The zone is used to capture the flag and increase the counter]

  2. If Axis lose the flag : an allies (that already carry a flag too) cannot return the lose flag.

  3. If the flag (get by axis is returned) : an Allies that carry the flag - can have his flag seen and the counter is increased.

Please to transmit the message to the creator.

Thank you to all !


(CyburK) #4

hi
i am not sure if i understand you but im trying to explain.

1.) thats a normal rule in any ctf gamplay. you cannot score if both flags are stolen. one team has to return their flag.

2.) this is normal in ctf gameplay too. you can wait for the flag to be returned after a few seconds by itself or drop the captured flag, return yours and pick the dropped one back up.

3.) i think point 1 explains this. -------> return your flag to score!

do you have a server to test the map? i would appreciate some matches to test.

greetings

cyburk


(ETdemin) #5

Thank you very much for having reply my post, it is very kind :wink:

Sure that I am not a specialist of CTF and I apologize for that… :wink:

but instead of that I have tested some maps like :

  • 0815_ctf
  • c_t_g
  • mp_sillyctf

** All these CTF maps permit to score if the other side have the “flag” too ** [Many prefer to use gold – but a flag can be cool too]

** You are right (impossible to return the “flag” must wait)

I can understand that actual script can be a “normal way” to play ctf_maat_b3 (or some standard CTF)… but we think it can be very more interesting to propose the choice with another script !

[And many players do not understand where to score and what they can do (first cause of playing many other maps)].

With your map ctf_maat_b3 it could really better to have a gameplay like “baserace” and it could give a very increased interest.
==> It could give very good fights in the temple cause all flags are at the same place :slight_smile:

Please for your map ctf_maat_b3 propose a “Baserace rule” :

  • Permit to score in all cases

  • Permit to return the flag (or a gold) “on the ground” in all cases [a flag could change of always a gold]

  • You can increase the number of flags to capture (6)

Your map have all the potential for being one of the best : Please free the rules for something that is expected by a good part of players :wink:

I have done my own “quick waypointing” for bots (but cannot work with your actual rules).

Thank you very much for your interest :wink:

p.s.: a new more Halloween map Welcome ! :slight_smile:


(CyburK) #6

im glad you like the map. here is a version of the script that should allow the players to score while their flag is stolen.

http://www.cyburk.net/cyburk_maps/scripts/ctf_maat_b3_fix.pk3

this little “fix” should do the trick. just drop it in your etmain folder. the other changes will take some time and right now im busy doing other stuff. if you want to modify the script further just go ahead.
i will check the forum every once in a while but cant promise any fast changes.

the original script is made by

// CTF mode and compass-scoreboard written by Rayban
// modified by reT!reD.NicK aka Flippy and Troy

thanks and greetings

cyburk

P.S. i just connected to the Eurobunker-Arena F1 and something screws up the treeline texture in the haunted mansion map. try to remove the version and go with the original.


(ETdemin) #7

Dear Sir,

** Very Special Greetings to you Sir CyburK **

Yeah !! Your special changes of the script, for the map ctf_maat_b3, do the trick a lot and offer a cool gameplay :wink:

But you will certainly hate me for having modified your Haunted Mansion map that I like very much with many other players too.

You certainly have wanted to create a stifling atmosphere for your nice Halloween map with the trees.

In general I prefer to speak of that in private.

But I give all my excuses because there is just a point that I do not like it’s the treeline. Not the trees by themselves but the fact the tree lines is broken and they look a little like a wall that do not feel natural. It’s why I have just change that texture.

My knowledge do not permit to do something better and again I apologize for that. I try to do all that I can by myself but everyone have his limits.
(And it have been hard to find something a minimum “Well-balanced”)

I know that it give a less Halloween aspect map but it look like granit wall in an unknow place “with like black norvegian granite ; a little like in a tombstone” - Or at the bottom of granit quarry in a “very lose / isolated” place.

(Hard to do some changes without changing the gameplay).

(For example I prefer the map frost_final and his gameplay than for the new version of the map)

(And for your other maps I find them very nice like they are :wink:

I am sorry for that because I can feel what, you an artist, can feel ; but art exist under different ways.
Every artist have a different feeling ; for example I have done my logos by myself & I do a little some painting.

And sometimes rationality overcome the art. I hope that you will be tolerant with my sprain.

Thank you very much !! :slight_smile: