Make all games ranked - Change current ranked to Competitive/Hardcore.

(JonBongNoJovi) #1

Balance is a constant issue that crops up weekly in the “dev video” , for too long i have been thinking only thing that will actually have any benefit to bringing balance is to make all games ranked .

Apparently you have the algorithm close to sorted so maybe use it in all games ? give everybody a rank instead of a level , change current ranked to competitive/hardcore mode . This in turn puts people of equal skill together and ppls of the same mindset also . them tryhardmydickwillfalloffifidontwin cunts will be put with other cunts , people who don’t play the objective equally will be put in a bracket with like minded folks , maybe us oldies will play with other oldies with slower reactions and such , all in all making it a more enjoyable experience for all.

Changing ranked to Competitive enables you to still have events for that game mode , it is just a change in name really keeping the 5v5 and friendly fire and credit boost ect .

(OwynTyler) #2

So you want to delete server-list? :o

(ThunderZsolt) #3

I’m not completely against this, but making the game ranked only would cause other issues. For example, players who try new mercs would underperform, and still create unbalanced games. And the “good” players can’t play when they have a bad day, because they are expected to perform well… what if I just want to slice shit with my katana, and pick Phantom? (especially when I’m drunk)
In a free to play game this would lead to everyone creating smurf accounts.

Food for thought: in Paladins (an other character based FPS) you can only play via matchmaking, but the MM in casual mode is not much better than a completely random system - you get games where one team doesn’t have a healer, while the other does, so the winner is basically decided by picking - but you gain/lose ELO because of your random teammates.
Guess what the players do to avoid this? Play the 2 beta maps without textures over and over, instead of the numerous fully designed maps, because you can **** around without consequences in the test queue. Yes, you read it right, the thest queue is more popular than the regular game mode, which is still more popular than the “competitive” mode.
On a side note, test map games are obviously less balanced than the regular matchmaking, but nobody seems to care, as long they don’t lose ranks.
So it looks like the casual game is the competitive now, and the test queue is the casual mode.

Another off-game example is TF2. I surely enjoyed trying hard to win, and carrying my team with soldier or scout, but the most fun I’ve had was playing demoknight on Valve servers.

SD is working on casual matchmaking though, and they promised that the server browser won’t go anywhere, so you’ll have the ranked, the casual matchmaking, and the “ultra casual” server browser. In íour case, you’ll be able to stick to casual matchmaking.

P.S. sorry about the long post, but match balance/fun games is a topic that has a special place in my heart <3

(Press E) #4

From what I’ve seen, ranked is even more poorly balanced than pubs, due to it being based around wins and losses more than individual performance. If they were going to do this, they’d first have to fix the ranking system.
But even then, I’d rather pubs just stay as they are. I like being able to mess around and not worry about things. Sometimes it’s fun to try to go melee only phantom and whatnot, and I don’t think this should be made into a serious game where players feel pressured to win. Yes there will be the occasional unbalanced match, but it’s about having fun, not forcing everyone to be serious.

(bgyoshi) #5

Sometimes I’m so drunk I can barely see the screen

But I’m still killing everything

And laughing in confusion about my performance despite my inebriated state

Which is absolutely not fun in Ranked

(scrub_lord) #6

Server browsers are pointless unless they allow the owner to create custom games. Having matchmaking is far superior.

(frostyvampire) #7

But then I won’t be able to stomp noobs as Aimee/Vassili and get called a hacker :C

(Xyfurion) #8

Sometimes I just want to fuck around and kill people with my katana whilst jumping around them as Kira spamming V57. Pubs is not usually about taking the game seriously.

(scrub_lord) #9

this suggestion prevents you from doing those things how?

(watsyurdeal) #10

I think people need to understand, that you can not have balance in 8v8, 7v7, or in a environment where you can drop in and out of the server.

(XavienX) #11

Is this a joke or something?

(Press E) #12

Honestly I like 8v8 best, and wish we had 9v9.
I love the insanity of a match full of good players, it’s so much fun, and so interesting, constantly changing.
And if someone leaves? It’s not a big issue, because the ratio of attackers to defenders will still be more equal, compared to a 5v5 match. Not to mention someone else will usually rejoin in 20 seconds.
Smaller matches just create this annoying meta of trying to counter each other, which harms balance even more. I’d much rather a free for all.