M4A1 too strong?


(CCP115) #1

It feels like it is way too good for who it sits with, incredibly accurate, pretty decent RPM, and large clip.

I got it for the first time today, and I gotta say I dominated with it, did much better than the BR-16 which is considerably harder to use.

Proposed nerf:

-Reduce clip size to 20

That’s it. Right now, you can spray at all ranges and land a nice number of hits, and I think that this small nerf will also make it akin to the M4 in CS:GO. Control fire at long ranges, and only spray if you’re desperate.

What do you think? Too extreme? Maybe 25 in a clip? 27?


(watsyurdeal) #2

Considering it takes about 10 shots to kill on person on average…that’d be a horrible idea.

Just give the Timik a more useful role, that simple.


(CCP115) #3

I think the Timik is fine at is, I just feel as though the M4 has too large of a clipsize, and out damaged both the BR-16, Stark, and Dreiss even at long ranges due to accuracy and clipsize. Granted the Burst rifles are skill dependent for lots of damage output, but I just felt the M4 was too good and that there wasn’t any real reason to use anything else.


(omegaskorpion) #4

I dont realy think Timik is fine, it has terrible spread and recoil just to have better fire rate, Which builds up that low spread even faster.

BR-16 simply needs to have 1 more burst (aka 30 ammo)

Stark would be good with more damage, lower fire rate and better scope (closer to sniper scopes)

M4 is good, but maybe bit too good, i think its damage should be reduced but its fire rate increased, while same time increasing timiks damage and reducing its fire rate.

M4, 13 damage, 550 rof
Timik: 16 damage, 500 rof (ok that is maybe bit too close to lmg damage? but then again if it was 15, it would be the same as burst rifles)


(meditativePillar) #5

M4 just seems to be more versatile. I get into long range gunfights on every map. Weapons with heavy spread just leave me at a disadvantage.


(Ghosthree3) #6

M4 is fine, there’s always going to be a weapon that’s the best for some reason. On it’s own it’s pretty balanced, I wouldn’t worry too much about it.


(S_Agarwalla) #7

I agree this gun definitely isn’t over powered. It just comes done to who can aim better, and manage to land more headshots on the enemy. Other than that reducing the clip size to something like 20 will make it useless in a game like this. Can’t really compare this to CSGO.


(Indefinite) #8

Both the M4 and Timik are fine.