Looter needs some buff

(hoyes) #21

Well i do think that the MK46 should have a 100 round mag so you don’t have to be dependent on spares or the looter cards along with 12dmg or an accuracy buff. That way people wouldn’t think that the ma42 isn’t so crutch seeming as you will have access on other cards to augments that affect other capabilties (like ma95) that are important to assualts in general and not just their weapons ( @konakona bomb squad is important and useful as it allows clear sight of mines, heartbeat sensors and SNITCH’s which really detriment your team when you cannot find them, which bomb squad helps with). Though tough will still be there so it will probs be the loadout of choice still even if the mk46 doesn’t use so many bullets to kill after a buff.

(Herr_Hanz) #22

i disagree. the 3rd loadout is worthless.

explodydendron might be usefull, but not a lot
bomb squad is nice to have, but i would rather trade it for unsakeable or focus.
quickdraw is an unnneccesary thing. why switch weapons when you have an 85 bullets mag.

it pales in comparison to the other 2 loadouts, allow me to quote myself

MK46 + drilled + spares + tough = pubs = is for pubs, where you have to rely on your own for ammo and health.
MK46 + unshakeable + focus = pugs = only usefull when you are certain that you wont run out of ammo.
other MK46 loadout = sux.

(konakona) #23

[quote=“Herr_Hanz;198945”]
idk why but i miss more bullets because of spread with the k121 than with the mk46. makes me think the k121 needs a spread buff as well as the mk46.[/quote]
K121 has nice m4a1 spread at start, but very big spread growth, so k121 is for sniping lowhp enemies after frag granade usage. I’m 100% sure that the idea of machineguns is to use them in duels after granades only. Or for sniping through the iron sight from safe position.

  1. Swithing resets spread. Your secondary’s spread will be nice on start. Good alternative to iron sighting if you want to continue strafing.
  2. Mk46 reload is too long even with drilled. I reload only if mag shows 50 or less bullets. So, rarely, but sometimes, i’m out of ammo and need to switch.
  3. It saves bullets. By your logic, why to have spares if there is 85 bullets mag? Why complaining about looter?
  4. Theoretically, it’s easier to use flash as an escape with qiuck draw.
  5. Mk46 is not an option when proxy jumps around you in the room.

Yes, but i can handle it on other mercs. There is no special synergy with thunder.

(Herr_Hanz) #24
  1. personal preference. i would rather ads than switching weapons, because that means i have to stop firing.
    2 + 3. the 85 bullets mag means you will find yourself switching to your pistol less than with other weapons, and because you only use your primary you need spares, and using more bullets means more reloading, so spares is usefull, as you will run out of ammo real quick. switching to your pistol does save bullets, and im training myself to switch to pistol when the enemy ran around the corner with only 20 hp left to save bullets. but the draw time is quick already, so i dont feel the need to have the augment.
  2. no experience with this, i have thrown concs in the middle of a fight, but never did it with quickdraw.
  3. its safer to use the mk46 than the cauldon against a minemonkey.

you made a valid point about quickdraw, even though it itsnt as usefull for my playstyle (yet), but we still have 2 augments left, and bomb squad isnt really that usefull for skilled players, and explodydendron is ‘meh’ on thunder. so the other 2 loadouts are better.

(Tanker_Ray) #25

@Herr_Hanz

You pretty much said almost everything that I wanted to say to @konakona .

But I have to say Bomb Squad is one of the best Situational Awareness perk in this game, and Exploy to conc isn’t meh.

Bomb squad is pretty much for Recons or Medics to counter enemy recon’s SNITCH, sensor or to avoid explosives and mines for survival.

Also, Explody conc has 8.8m of insane radius.

MA95 sucks ass quite hard since MA42’s Drilled+Spare+Tough+M9 combo is the best, MA71’s Unshakeable + Focus is much better.

BUT, you forgot S41 which is best Stark Thunder loadout.

Explody + Spares + FocuStark combo is the most OP shxt that THUNDA can reach.

Well, BACK TO THE THREAD’S TOPIC, I just hope Looter’s compensation buff.

To make Thunder’s MA71 and Bush’s SM43 bit more competetive compare to MA42, C41.

(JJMAJR) #26

[quote=“JJMAJR;198435”]I would like a couple of solid loadouts for Redeye where the augments are Looter, Mechanic, and (something else to balance between weaponry).

D42 Viper Rifleman
Looter - Mechanic - Silencer? (Bomb Squad otherwise)

G55 Serpent Sniper
Looter - Mechanic - Untrackable

P71 Snakeskin Sniper
Looter - Mechanic - Tough[/quote]

Looks back at this post…
Nobody cares, huh?