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(Sytry) #1

I’m thinking about a list of names that Nexon banned players because of cheat/hackers. Is noting about shame/indignity but is more like a warning for cheaters/hackers that cheating is not good and would be punished.

(SteelMailbox) #2

Naming and shaming was never allowed here so this won’t work
While you say it isn’t meant for that it would still be considered.
The rule is just never call someone a cheater directly here with his name mentioned

(Sytry) #3

[quote=“steelMailbox;186589”]Naming and shaming was never allowed here so this won’t work
While you say it isn’t meant for that it would still be considered.
The rule is just never call someone a cheater directly here with his name mentioned [/quote]

You misunderstand I didn’t said we punish “cheaters” on the list. If you are banned by Nexon as cheaters you end up on the list by Nexon not by us. That is difference by naming and shaming. It work very fine in other games after cheaters banned and they names published as warning.

(Jostabeere) #4

[quote=“Sytry;186591”][quote=“steelMailbox;186589”]Naming and shaming was never allowed here so this won’t work
While you say it isn’t meant for that it would still be considered.
The rule is just never call someone a cheater directly here with his name mentioned [/quote]

You misunderstand I didn’t said we punish “cheaters” on the list. If you are banned by Nexon as cheaters you end up on the list by Nexon not by us. That is difference by naming and shaming. It work very fine in other games after cheaters banned and they names published as warning.[/quote]

That is naming and shaming by Nexon.

(Ardez1) #5

It is still naming and shaming. Not to mention I could create a 2nd steam account, change my name to be somebody active on the forums or tournaments and get myself banned. Boom, a name people knows is added to the list and that person, who did nothing wrong, is suddenly being thought of as a cheater.

No. It isn’t going to happen.

(doxjq) #6

What Ardez said. I’ve actually had this happen to me back in late Quake2 days. There was a guy called “imposter” who used to alias with other people’s names, hack with their names and basically get those players put onto a hit list by the community. Even though his ping was totally different to mine people chose to ignore it and basically in the end things became so bad I gave up and had to change my identity. Been Dox ever since. So I can totally understand the whole no naming and shaming thing.

(Sytry) #7

I understand the fuss and what you mean but that is the problem with steam accounts since you can create unlimited accounts and using same nicknames. In a game like WoT you are limited to one original nickname and they did put the list with 450 banned “cheaters” but WoT don’t use steam so no one can create multiple accounts with the same nicknames.

(Cuck) #8

no HWIP tracking like Overwatch?
the cheaters buy new copy of overwatch because their previous id is now banned and found themselves got banned again right after they instal a new one.

then they change the IP
then buy Vpn

the only explaination that guy bought the game 6 times and still got banned is Hardware IP
so he need brand new PC.

(inscrutableShow) #9

So like when they used to hang the bodies of pirates up in chains on the waterfront to warn against piracy?

(CadGamings) #10

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(KUST__LunarTM) #11

I understand naming and shaming, but I feel kind of conflicted as whether or not that’s really an issue in this case. N&S in an accusatory matter I can understand is not cool, but if the player has already been banned, would it matter so much? Because of how Steam works, it’s kind of a yes and a no.

I kind of see where the OP is coming from. When you login to the Combat Arms forum, a special topic pops up called Dishonored List that lists all the banned hackers, cheaters, glitchers, harrassers, etc. along with links to the evidence submitted towards that player’s ban.

The huge difference between having that there and having one here is that in Combat Arms, each username is different and unique, while in Dirty Bomb, the name you see in-game is a dynamic nickname set in Steam that can be changed at anytime. Showing a player’s username wouldn’t be smart because that would be giving away half of a person’s login information, which is kind of illegal.

The main reason this does not exist for Dirty Bomb is most likely to avoid seeing things like a hacker who named himself kAndyREW or Cliff Terios or Kelvin711, someone looking at the list and freaking out, causing misinformation and general mayhem in the chat.

Overall, because Dirty Bomb is based on Steam, a hacker list wouldn’t really work. Nicknames can be changed, and usernames cannot be given out publicly, making a list of banned players inaccurate or possibly illegal. If, however, Dirty Bomb evolved past Steam, created their own system with their own unique usernames and display names, a list of dishonourable players might be feasible, but more than likely improbable.

The reason why I tend to compare Dirty Bomb and Combat Arms a lot is because they are owned by the same publisher, and I personally feel like Dirty Bomb evolved from Combat Arms’ fast paced, hipfire-centric gameplay.

(Ardez1) #12

@KUST__LunarTM DB was originally using the Nexon Launcher. It moved to steam in February or March of 2015. I think the reasoning was an expanded playerbase to draw from, which I can completely understand.

Nexon had no input in the original design of DB and I’m fairly certain they aren’t crazy involved in creative decisions right now, but I don’t have any proof of that. Any similarities to Combat Arms are coincidental in terms of gameplay.

(watsyurdeal) #13

I think people will be surprised at how short that list is, at least here in the United States I don’t see a lot of hackers. Hell I haven’t seen one since last summer.

(KUST__LunarTM) #14

@Ardez I didn’t know about the launcher thing. I always thought it was weird that a Nexon published game wasn’t on their official launcher, lol.

I actually first found out about Dirty Bomb through my brother. he found it, played it a little bit, and told me “It’s kind of like Combat Arms.” Being the total CA nerd I was at the time, I was like “Hell yeah, I’ll give that a try!” I’m very glad that I did. I very much enjoy this game.

(Nail) #15

[quote=“Ardez;186874”]@KUST__LunarTM DB was originally using the Nexon Launcher. It moved to steam in February or March of 2015. I think the reasoning was an expanded playerbase to draw from, which I can completely understand.

Nexon had no input in the original design of DB and I’m fairly certain they aren’t crazy involved in creative decisions right now, but I don’t have any proof of that. Any similarities to Combat Arms are coincidental in terms of gameplay.[/quote]

actually DB used the Warchest launcher before Nexon came along

(Ardez1) #16

[quote=“Nail;186914”][quote=“Ardez;186874”]@KUST__LunarTM DB was originally using the Nexon Launcher. It moved to steam in February or March of 2015. I think the reasoning was an expanded playerbase to draw from, which I can completely understand.

Nexon had no input in the original design of DB and I’m fairly certain they aren’t crazy involved in creative decisions right now, but I don’t have any proof of that. Any similarities to Combat Arms are coincidental in terms of gameplay.[/quote]

actually DB used the Warchest launcher before Nexon came along[/quote]

I was just talking since Nexon’s involvement. Oops.

(Jostabeere) #17

Yeah. DB is like the most cheater-free F2P FPS around. Although it had it’s times where there were quite a low of cheaters.

@Cuck We’re in 2016. Do you really believe HWID bans are safe and people can’t bypass them easily?