I set up a bunch of lights in my map, and created the last BSP (test), used for lighting and finished stuff, but there is light everywhere. There is no change of light or anything. Even my light that I set the RGB to red wasn’t red. I have no _samples stuff, so why is it doing this? All of the intensitys are set to 300. Please help, thanks!
:stroggtapir:
Do you have lightmaps?
Check that in your maps folder, there should be a folder with your map name containing some .tga lightmap images.
If that folder isn’t there, it seems like you skipped the -light phase in your BSP compiling.
In my “maps folder” I have the BSP’s and .prt’s, and then the name my map as a folder. I click it, it has two images, which appear to be black. They are: lm_0000 and lm_0001. They are both paint.net images. It appears you are right, it did skip it. Even though it took ALOT longer then when creating the meta bsp. So how do I include this process?
Oh by the way, my lights don’t shave the radius in the 2d view.
and also, shouldn’t it be dark if it wasn’t compiled?
[QUOTE=Scatcycle;250389]I set up a bunch of lights in my map, and created the last BSP (test), used for lighting and finished stuff, but there is light everywhere. There is no change of light or anything. Even my light that I set the RGB to red wasn’t red. I have no _samples stuff, so why is it doing this? All of the intensitys are set to 300. Please help, thanks!
:stroggtapir:[/QUOTE]
Because you didnt light compile. Make sure there is a ‘-light’ command in the compiler.
Did you make pk3 of your map which is in etmain?
If yes, has it got the folder with lightmaps in right place?
[QUOTE=Destroy666;250404]Did you make pk3 of your map which is in etmain?
If yes, has it got the folder with lightmaps in right place?[/QUOTE]
No, it is a bsp.
Do you put it in a pk3 before you test?
Or do you test without making a pk3? (easier way)
If you do make a pk3 first make sure you include all the files with the map name. (Not just the .bsp)
[QUOTE=stealth6;250446]Do you put it in a pk3 before you test?
Or do you test without making a pk3? (easier way)
If you do make a pk3 first make sure you include all the files with the map name. (Not just the .bsp)[/QUOTE]
I test withought pk3. I checked all my lights, they all have classname normal, light 100, and origin normal. :stroggtapir:
I cannot load the text file to this site becuase it exceeds the size limit, but maybe I can post it here…
Open file C:/Program Files/Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory/etmain/maps/test.map for write…success
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Writing C:/Program Files/Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory/etmain/maps/test.bsp
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=== running build command ===
“C:/Program Files/GtkRadiant 1.5.0/q3map2.exe” -v -connect 127.0.0.1:39000 -game et -fs_basepath “C:/Program Files/Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory/” -fs_game etmain -light -super 2 -external -lightmapsize 256 “C:/Program Files/Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory/etmain/maps/test.map”
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Q3Map - v1.0r © 1999 Id Software Inc.
Q3Map (ydnar) - v2.5.17
GtkRadiant - v1.5.0 Apr 26 2007 19:01:46
Last one turns the lights off
— InitPaths —
VFS Init: C:/Program Files/Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory//etmain/
VFS Init: C:/Program Files/Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory//etmain/
— Light —
Ordered-grid supersampling enabled with 4 sample(s) per lightmap texel
Storing all lightmaps externally
Default lightmap size set to 256 x 256 pixels
Storing all lightmaps externally
Map has shader script C:/Program Files/Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory/etmain/maps/…/scripts/q3map2_test.shader
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Loading C:/Program Files/Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory/etmain/maps/test.bsp
Loading C:/Program Files/Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory/etmain/maps/test.srf
— LoadMapFile —
Loading C:/Program Files/Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory/etmain/maps/test.map
entering C:/Program Files/Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory/etmain/maps/test.map
8 light entities
— SetupBrushes —
278 opaque brushes
— SetupDirt —
48 dirtmap vectors
— SetupSurfaceLightmaps —
698 surfaces
636 raw lightmaps
1 surfaces vertex lit
697 surfaces lightmapped
696 planar surfaces lightmapped
0 non-planar surfaces lightmapped
1 patches lightmapped
0 planar patches lightmapped
— SetupTraceNodes —
************ ERROR ************
MAX_TW_VERTS (12) exceeded
Autosaving…
Open file C:/Program Files/Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory/etmain/maps/test.autosave.map for write…success
Oh by the way, I have tried using a “sky” (white) texture for a block that looks like the sky, and I’ve tried using a skybox, but neither work. The White textured sky just comes up as orange and black, and the using a skybox ad caulk just shows up as outside the map where everything just repeates itself.
I did say use pastebin for a reason 
Anyway it looks like your light compile doesn’t finish it’s job:
************ ERROR ************
MAX_TW_VERTS (12) exceeded
I can’t remember what this error message is though but perhaps a forum and/or google search may provide some answers for you.
A quick search gave me the following:
http://www.splashdamage.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-6200.html
I had just that problem when I was working on Missile. If I remember right, it really were non-details brushes with too complicated geometry, which split up the portals q3map2 creates (in the vis stage though?) too heavily.
add “-debugportals” to the compiler settings and you will be able to search your map for these areas (where there are tons of portals at one spot)
Thank you! That is indeed the error! I have a couple cylinders with a lot of blocks interjecting with eachother. Is there anyway I can merge the blocks? Or is there another way to get rid of the error? Does changing them to structure or detail do anything?
I bet this relates to the fact that half of one of my cylinders is unseeable from alot of Angles in Wolfenstein.
I will switch it to Detail, and see if it works.
EDIT: Detail did not work. I also have 2 tanks (non scripted, just scenery) lying around, would those make it not work?
On another note, the skybox works now… lol
EDIT: I backed up the file, and deleted almost everything that isnt a rectangle. It still doesn’t work. same error. The only thing I didn’t is a 3d triangle. I don’t know how to use the -debugprotals thing. Can anyone help?