Let's discuss story!

(hamstein) #1

So what do you think is really going on in the Ark?

Why aren’t they contacting the outside world?

Why is stuff being rationed?

Why do the refugees to dangerous work?

(Nail) #2

storytime is held at the Bethesda forums, they’re better at it

(tokamak) #3

It’s a bit like this

(Mr. Magikarp) #4

[QUOTE=hamstein;280986]So what do you think is really going on in the Ark?

Why aren’t they contacting the outside world?

Why is stuff being rationed?

Why do the refugees to dangerous work?[/QUOTE]

  1. Not sure. Maybe the rest of the world has died of starvation or has sunk.

  2. Stuff is being rationed because there isn’t enough for the 50,000 people on the Ark to have as much stuff as they want. The Ark can’t go over the sustainable yield of their resources or else they’ll run out forever.

  3. The refugees do the dangerous work because they have to do something to earn their keep and all the non-dangerous jobs were already taken by the people who were supposed to be on the Ark in the first place.

(Herandar) #5

Even if all of both polar ice caps totally melted, the world’s sea levels would only rise about 200-250 feet, (I forget the more precise estimate.) There would still be plenty of land clear of the oceans, though a ridiculous percentage (like 80%) of the world’s population lives that close to sea level. (Mexico City would be fine, though.) I know this and I’m not particularly interested or involved in discussion regarding climate change. I would sincerely hope that a game developer with a bare minimum of several intelligent people creating a game with a speculative fiction story set in a possible future would also know this. If not, I sincerely regret not being a part of this comunity in early 2008.

My personal hope is that they end up encountering a vessel that is home to a faction called the “Smokers” and that it turns out that the vessel is the Exxon Valdez!!! :eek:

(LyndonL) #6

Ah the fabled MV Nosmo King. We see that vessel several times every day we go flying. It’s magical and has the ability to change shape and colour at will.

(Nail) #7

lol, there’s my character, Dennis Hopper in Waterworld “The Deacon”

(trigg3r) #8

[QUOTE=hamstein;280986]So what do you think is really going on in the Ark?

Why aren’t they contacting the outside world?

Why is stuff being rationed?

Why do the refugees to dangerous work?[/QUOTE]
well, let me start by saying that the Ark is an enourmous floating city built in the near future as part of a contemporary green vision…

(Linsolv) #9

  1. Probably illegal military testing. Since they hinted at it pretty heavily.

  2. Well, if I told you, I’d have to prevent you from contacting the outside world.

  3. Because of the fundamental economic rule of scarcity—the resources available are not enough to saturate the market.

  4. Because there’s dangerous work to do, and the fundamental economic rule of scarcity—the jobs available are not enough to saturate the market.

(Nail) #10

2: only Telus has coverage and everyone has Fido phones

(Linsolv) #11

I like you, Nail. You’re a funny guy. I don’t think I have ever wanted to punch you, unlike so many regulars here.

(Herandar) #12

Drink much last night, Linsolv?

(Linsolv) #13

I don’t drink, Herandar. I’m not 21 yet (almost there, only a few more months, and then I can not drink because it’s expensive!) and not rebellious enough to ignore that bit. I just thought I should tell Nail that he has a very funny avatar and he’s a reasonably likeable person most of the time that I can remember at this point.

(Herandar) #14

Don’t tell him that, it goes against the contrarian curmudgeonly persona that he’s crafted for himself. :slight_smile:

(Bullveyr) #15

yea, nobody drinks in the US before they turn 21

(Crytiqal) #16

Luckily you can drive a car before knowing the effects of alcohol and you can also shoot guns.

Why the hell not?

(tokamak) #17

First of all the real science here is irrelevant as the game already operated under the premise that the sea levels have risen. It’s the same with water world.

But while we’re talking climate science, it’s not actually the ice caps that make for the sea level rise. Sea-ice doesn’t contribute anything at all, only land ice does, but that’s not the biggest factor. The biggest factor is the expansion of ocean as the water heats up and gets a lower density.

Now the recent predictions regarding sea level rise aren’t that dire. Some locations will be serious trouble but of course water-world scenarios are ridiculous. However, sea level rise is only a part of a wide breadth of problems. We’re dealing with land erosion, desertification, drought, extreme weather conditions and forest fires all making the land surface less habitable. Brink simplifies this with ‘we don’t exactly know what happened but things got messed up bad’.

It doesn’t require a complete elimination of say, our food production before a crisis kicks off. Only small fluctuations in food prices are enough to cause riots in places where food takes up most of their budget.

All climate change does is increasing the pressure on the lid of overpopulation which may prove to be enough to throw an entire world into chaos. And yes, then the best place to be would be a floating, completely self-reliant little microcosm far away from all the trouble.

(Crytiqal) #18

Actually, melting land-ice is the biggest contributor to an increasing sea level rise.

deep ocean water has a temp of about 0 degrees and warming that up (which would require ALOT of joules) would first cause a density increase. near surface ocean water would heat up, but because of the global conveyor it would still sink down and mix so a change of SLR caused by temp. increase of ocean water would have a huge delay and would be insignificant to the rise caused by melting land ice.

(tokamak) #19

I see, new findings last month.

The delays are everywhere in the system though. We’re now experiencing the effects of the carbon emissions we put in 15 years ago.