K121 needs HELP

[HadronZodiac]

recycles br16 loadout for downgrade k121

The k121 has a LOT of potential, but atm its too extra. Its trying to be some god cannon but it ends up an unstable mess

Some changes that are needed are

K21 -
Damage - 16
RPM - 507
Reload - 3 seconds
Clip - 60
Spread reduced by 10%

[DarkangelUK]

Try and keep the titles a little less controversial please

[Mr.Cuddlesworth]

All it needs is less recoil and a faster reload.

[HadronZodiac]

A -1 damage helps that less recoil, rn damage is so high per bullet spread skyrockets after ~3 shots

[STARRYSOCK]

All it needs is less recoil and a faster reload.

Agreed. Compared to the rest of the weapons in DB, it’s spread is also pretty ridiculous. After a couple shots your accuracy is already all over the place. And considering the weapon fires so slowly, it’s extremely pronounced.

I wouldn’t mind a reduce in damage in exchange for less spread

[Xenithos]

Didn’t we literally have this discussion less than a month ago Hadron?

K121 balance

The k121, although good mathmatically, in practice is a huge flop Now ive used it for some time, so i do have a bit of an objective thought process (imo reee) so here we gooo The main thing i have the k121 is how “extra” it is, an automated 17 damage LMG is a bit unneccesary, especially when it comes to practice You typically land 1-2 shots before the spread just goes “F U”, and its pretty annoying, so i suggest DAMAGE - 16 (32 for head) CLIP SIZE - 60 RPM - 507 & -10% horizontal recoil …

Legit right here? ALSO started by you?
And my same post right here?

K121 balance

I want to chime in here on the fact that I play Fragger a fair bit, and think your proposed changes would definitely change the gun to not used. It’s barely used already, and despite the fact that in all other scenarios the m14 is better, I prefer the chog chog of the k121.

IF it would be changed it only needs two smaller adjustments:
Faster spread reset time (as in people that decide to more burst with it CAN actually burst with it) by about 20-25%. (this means that they suffer a slight dps decrease in favor for accuracy, which is favorable and should make the gun feel MUCH better overall)
and shave .5-1 second off the reload, because dang yo. That reload is painful. I’ve gone Deagles only with Fragger in a group of enemies because reloading that gun would have taken too long.

DONT mess with the damage, as that’s part of what makes that gun feel better depsite it’s other flaws, don’t mess with it’s spread as prolonged firing with it and hitting all shots would mean 150dps (highest in game) and DONT mess with it’s ammo capacity as it’s honestly in the right place. Changing that wouldn’t really fix it’s real flaws.

I pretty much agree with Cuddlesworth. Also, PLEASE stop spamming this discussion. Do you actually have something new to add to it? No, so don’t. @DarkangelUK did you realize he just recreated one of his other posts that already had the proper name?

[DarkangelUK]

He actually changed the post after I saw it, it was another complaint post about rng with a god awful title that I was forced to change and wasnt originally about the k121, at this point I’m going to suggest no more creating threads just to post loadout cards and I’m going to close this one as it has been changed into a duplicate thread after the fact.

[DarkangelUK]