Just Wondering On the future....


(codix) #1

Hey guys,

I was loking into some colleges and I choose one I really want to go to. (www.fullsail.com) and get a bachelors in 2 years but have to be a full-time student (go to school 5-6 dyas a week) and I am going to study game development so obviously i’m getting my Bachelors of Science btu I was wondering how much do game programmers get or do you know any good jobs that pay pretty well in the gaming industry (Just wondering for the future). I heard game programmers get paid pretty good but I don’t know.


(Calzonzin) #2

You will probably have both ends of the spectrum, from joe "fresh graduate from a mediocre junior college " schmoe to the “whet else can I buy” John Carmacks of the world… The important this is that you 1) Love game programming because it would be fun for you to put 16 hour days into it; and 2) Have an escape plan, if all you know about programming is games, you will be vulnerable if you need a job quick later on.

I personally have stayed away from hiring one-skill programmers. I manage business/financial-oriented programming, though, and there are lots of things to understand (algorithms, databases, platforms, web, telecommunications, etc…). Maybe game programming is more specialized and companies do not require wide knowledge. If an animator only animates, then getting a bachelor’s in two years might be worth it. Hopefully those two/three years you save do not skip over computer science fundamentals, but I cannot see how you can cover all the important stuff in such a short time without skipping really valuable stuff, like algorithms or logic (specially important for game programming).

EDIT: Another note: These days programmers that can only program are extremely replaceable, usually by much cheaper programmers from overseas. People who can understand real-world problems (ie, a verbal game concept) and translate them into computer terms (ie, requirement specs, test cases, high-level design, etc…) are the people that cannot be replaced with cheaper labor from abroad. In order ot gain these skills you must study English and systems analysis classes, not just programming classes. You must study peripheral subjects, like literartue, economics, and history. Not because you will use them directly, but because your horizons will be broadened and will help enrich the documents you write. You cannot write a business-related document if you know nothing about business (and remember that game development is a business). It does not matter how brilliant a programmer you are, remember that you also have to communicate with your boss (who may not care about programming as much as you) or with third parties.

Anyway, that’s my two cents.


(codix) #3

Well, The way fullsail works (College I will attend) has the Bachelors of science degree Program. In order for that you have to be a full-time student so I will go to school for 6 days around 60-70 hours a week. Alot of graduates from there work in Activision,EA Sports, EA Tiburon, etc… So some people have gotten good knowledge out of it. As you were saying that we should learn not just programming, wellat the college I have to attend I must take the following courses to complete the 2 year bachelor of science degree program:

3d Content Creation
Advanced Tool Programming
Artificial Intelligence (A.I)
Asset Production
Behavioral Science
Bussiness Communication
Calculus & Trigonometry
Console Development
Data Structure
DirectX
Entertainment Bussiness & Law
Ethics & Psychology
Game Networking
Game Reproduction
Game Project
General Design Fundamentals 1
General Design Fundamentals 2
Historical Archetypes & Mythology
Linear Algebra
Machine Architecture
Media & Society
OpenGL
Optimization
Physics
Programming 1
Programming 2
Real Time 3d Programming
“Rules Of The Game”
Software Architecture
Structures of Game Design

Do you think If I learn all of these classes and get the hang of it, will it be enough knowledge to get a good job? I saw what you were saying about learning history and english skills, socializing, etc… That’s why I like this college because it is not just about programming. They shows you alot in what you will need. I think this college is very good and it will be hard work being a full-time student but alot of people have gotten good jobs from there. If you think this college isn’t too good to help me get a good job do you know any other colleges that teach me the same but better? Please I really wish to have a bright future and would like to know if there are any other good colleges, although I have my heart on fullsail. Do you think fullsail would be good for my game programmin dream?