[quote=“Jostabeere;130291”]
You are mad because Nexon didn’t ban someone who swears in-game? You comparing cheating to some non-important swears and expecting a punishment for the first time?
Nexon did the right thing to say you to just mute him.[/quote]
Non-important ? It shows how much respect such players have towards other players. And, in turn, how much Nexon itself cares about such things.
What kind of community can there be, if parent company essentially gives a green light to harassment, hate and intolerance. By suggesting to use “mute” option essentially telling players “its your problem, not ours”.
Goes rather well with whole “no naming and shaming” thing. Corporate version of “three wise monkeys”… just without wise part.
So if a person went and made 5 steam accounts, knew how to change their IP address and used a super easy to use program that easily changes the packets that send hardware ID information or simply spoofs it at the OS level and then made their name Dirmagnos while cheating, being racist and inflammatory…you’d be ok with having your name up on a ban list? And in videos? And at some point the person probably got your actual steam ID associated with those?
You’re cool with this? Does this seem like something that would be funny to you?
It’s one thing to keep ban lists as a league. It’s a smaller community full of players who mostly know each other making it harder to cheat and get away with it and harder to play again under a different name. And there are a lot of players who will keep proper watch. Not to mention the league’s actually have some ability to investigate with people who are proven to know what they are doing. But a public name and shame list on a forum like this does not work and will never work. Just like claiming that hardware id bans and ip bans actually do much good. A public ban list like what you seem to be OK with only does one things…it makes people who aren’t actually doing anything productive feel better about themselves while in reality making the paranoia and ability to harass/troll even worse.
If SD released a public SteamID ban list for the game that would be fine but it too comes with issues. But random people claiming on a forum that somebody cheated in their game and wanting those people listed as “losers” just doesn’t work. As demonstrated many many times in not only gaming but history. There needs to be some accountability and process involved…not just pitchforks and “BURN THEM AT THE STAKE”.
[left][quote=“Jostabeere;130761”]I lost it at: “Selling your chubby momma completely to a midget”.
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Such a high level. When I was 12 I also lauched about mom jokes.
Isn’t there something like a chat protocol with account-id and other stuff? I mean how does nexon even check the case? They ask for time and character name when you fill in a ticket.
According to my experience so far you can just insult everyone ingame and nothing will happen. This guy said he is doing it for 3 months already. This just shows that nothing will happen if you act like him. In other words everyone could just insult as much as he wants and nothing will ever happen to them. Great!
[quote=“Dirmagnos;130838”][quote=“Jostabeere;130291”]
You are mad because Nexon didn’t ban someone who swears in-game? You comparing cheating to some non-important swears and expecting a punishment for the first time?
Nexon did the right thing to say you to just mute him.[/quote]
Non-important ? It shows how much respect such players have towards other players. And, in turn, how much Nexon itself cares about such things.
What kind of community can there be, if parent company essentially gives a green light to harassment, hate and intolerance. By suggesting to use “mute” option essentially telling players “its your problem, not ours”.
Goes rather well with whole “no naming and shaming” thing. Corporate version of “three wise monkeys”… just without wise part.[/quote]
I can’t agree more. It absolutely looks like you described it. I get insulted by immature players and nexon tells me there is a mute option for this case.
Nexon will does this solve the problem? I won’t be able to read his messages in the match. What about the next match? What about the other players? They notice nothing happens and everyone starts to act like him. What about the new players who just started playing Dirty Bomb and meet players like him? They get ingame and meet people like him who call them them n1gger, cottonpicker, jew… and insult them and their family with other racist stuff. They must get a really good image about Dirty Bomb.[/left]
Do you know for sure he is doing this for 3 months in every game? I can say I’m using an aimbot for…4! months, and I’m unbanned. I mean, you are probably not the only one who reported him.
The thing is. If he would be reported many times, Nexon would deal with him. Without a doubt. Same as they’re dealing with people here on the forums who insult people and so on multiple times.
But since Nexon said you to just mute him, it seems they never got a complaint about him before.
I was accused of cheating today on 4 occasions, by different players in different matches. Which is an outrageously high number of times (I think I’ve only ever been accused once before today).
Some were low levels, but there was on mid level player in the mix as well around level 26.
If it were up to these people I’d be banned by now, even though I don’t cheat and I even told them to check out my youtube channel as it shows videos of me playing the game and often doing very well.
They then started to insult me saying, “oh probably some kid with like 10 views”. (not that my actual age or number of views on my videos is even relevant to anything)
They didn’t care if I was really cheating or not, they just didn’t like the fact that I was dominating their game and wanted me gone.
Banning should absolutely be handled by Nexon and never by random players as often they can’t tell if something is a bot or not.
[quote=“Atagi;131013”][left][quote=“Jostabeere;130761”]I lost it at: “Selling your chubby momma completely to a midget”.
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Such a high level. When I was 12 I also lauched about mom jokes.
Isn’t there something like a chat protocol with account-id and other stuff? I mean how does nexon even check the case? They ask for time and character name when you fill in a ticket.
According to my experience so far you can just insult everyone ingame and nothing will happen. This guy said he is doing it for 3 months already. This just shows that nothing will happen if you act like him. In other words everyone could just insult as much as he wants and nothing will ever happen to them. Great!
[quote=“Dirmagnos;130838”][quote=“Jostabeere;130291”]
You are mad because Nexon didn’t ban someone who swears in-game? You comparing cheating to some non-important swears and expecting a punishment for the first time?
Nexon did the right thing to say you to just mute him.[/quote]
Non-important ? It shows how much respect such players have towards other players. And, in turn, how much Nexon itself cares about such things.
What kind of community can there be, if parent company essentially gives a green light to harassment, hate and intolerance. By suggesting to use “mute” option essentially telling players “its your problem, not ours”.
Goes rather well with whole “no naming and shaming” thing. Corporate version of “three wise monkeys”… just without wise part.[/quote]
I can’t agree more. It absolutely looks like you described it. I get insulted by immature players and nexon tells me there is a mute option for this case.
Nexon will does this solve the problem? I won’t be able to read his messages in the match. What about the next match? What about the other players? They notice nothing happens and everyone starts to act like him. What about the new players who just started playing Dirty Bomb and meet players like him? They get ingame and meet people like him who call them them n1gger, cottonpicker, jew… and insult them and their family with other racist stuff. They must get a really good image about Dirty Bomb.[/left][/quote]
yes, we desperately need internet police to crack down on abusive 12year olds, to protect your hurt ego
[left][quote=“Szakalot;131162”]yes, we desperately need internet police to crack down on abusive 12year olds, to protect your hurt ego[/quote]
And the internet needs more trolls like you. Do you realize he is insulting everyone and not just me? Being racist and insulting people like that has nothing to do with a hurt ego. I’ve seen people ingame who prais Hitler as a good guy and Nexon tells you to mute them. Thats all.
So is this the offical statement that you are allowed to insult everyone as much as you want without any consequences?[/left]
The developers did a stream and had two cheaters IN THE GAME with them (ADMITTING they were cheating, even if it was obvious), and the developers did NOTHING. Good luck with your situation.
And the internet needs more trolls like you. Do you realize he is insulting everyone and not just me? Being racist and insulting people like that has nothing to do with a hurt ego. I’ve seen people ingame who prais Hitler as a good guy and Nexon tells you to mute them. Thats all.
So is this the offical statement that you are allowed to insult everyone as much as you want without any consequences?[/left]
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Yeah, no. Google the term troll please.
I mean. It offend you.
But it’s not illegal to call people niggers, cottonpickers, chinks or whatever.
It’s not nice, but it’s legal.
Also, don’t lose your credibility by insulting people as trolls because they don’t accept your one and only right opinion after complaining about others insulting people.
You mean besides banning them? Or did you expect them to stop the stream right then and there and code up some solution to a problem that nobody has been able to fix in over two decades of trying? There is no way to prevent all cheating. If there was it would have been standardized long ago. I’m not sure what you expect here.
They could work on something like the Overwatch system in CSGO? Where high level players watch recorded demos of consistently reported players and decide whether or not they found anything fishy.
@Dirmagnos No, the real reason we have the rule in place is because of false accusations. All it does it start witch-hunts again potentially innocent people. When evidence is submitted to support, they can clarify if the footage is suspicious or not, however people on the internet seem to have very poor judgement of this – some will think they are hacking, while others will not. See where the problems begin to arise?
As “blatant” as something might look, all it does is incite negativity.
