Is Phantom Useless?

(SmOKy) #1

Hey i am probably not that good as some guys here BUT in MY opinion he still being usefull!
Reason:He still being pretty good “entry-fragger” he can just flank the enemy team and pick some guys out like The sniper,Medics Or even just some guys chilling and try to cover the seccond objective.
But i have to say its useless if your team dont react fast if you got the entry frags.

Give me some feedback and write your Opinion.GLHF

(watsyurdeal) #2

Fragger and Nader can do that too though

So…what else can he do?

(SmOKy) #3

Well as i wrote that i meaned like he can sneake behind the enemy lines and can pick out 1 or 2 then fall back or even get more.

(battyChef) #4

I feel like Proxy and Rhino got an even easier time dealing with him. I’ve gotten top score multiple times with phantom; without even trying once (In other words, I was taking pictures of a slender man fletcher). Obviously still viable.

(watsyurdeal) #5

But if people can see Phantom coming, then what’s the point?

I could easily just flank the enemy with another class and have some more useful abilities.

The way I see it if Cloak can’t get me past a chokepoint or where the enemy is currently holding, unseen, then there’s no point. I could use someone else and benefit my team more.

(irishrOy) #6

Brainfart that came to my mind as I read something similar here:
What if Phantom shouldn’t be able to instantly attack out of his cloak?
What if it would work like in TF2 where you first need to de-cloak and then you’re able to attack? This way a Phantom couldn’t “instantly” kill an opponent without giving him the slightest chance to defend himself?

(watsyurdeal) #7

[quote=“irishroy;52285”]Brainfart that came to my mind as I read something similar here:
What if Phantom shouldn’t be able to instantly attack out of his cloak?[/quote]

Why shouldn’t he when his attacks on kill 100 hp classes or lower? And everyone else it’ll take at least one or more?

[quote=“irishroy;52285”]
What if it would work like in TF2 where you first need to de-cloak and then you’re able to attack? This way a Phantom couldn’t “instantly” kill an opponent without giving him the slightest chance to defend himself?[/quote]

Because then the Phantom in turn would be unable to kill anyone

You have to realize that TF2 and Dirty Bomb are NOT the same.

The TTK is way faster in this game, so assuming your fix gets added, and assuming you’re playing with people with good reflexes, which most people in this game should have by now. Anything slower than 0.5 seconds is too much. Because by the time the Phantom would decloak he’s already spotted because of the distinct audio and visual cues, and the fact that he can’t defend himself at all until the process finishes.

So by the time Phantom starts to attack he’s already fighting people in front assault, they’re already firing back at him. He’s dead, he will not win that fight.

You can not apply the same principles since the TTK is faster, and EVERYONE has access to advanced mobility, unlike TF2 where only a 1/3 of the classes have high speed or use of explosives to jump with.

(irishrOy) #8

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Hm. I always keep thinking Phantom’s cloak is like the Spy’s cloak, however in TF2 it’s 100% invis, while in D:B it’s not. Sorry ^^

(aRagRappy) #9

Frankly phantom always has been useless, even since closed beta, he has no team utility and the only thing he’s good at is picking off lone players, which you certainly dont need phantom for.