Is Phantom really OP?


(SlixFaz) #1

Hey i just want to discuss if phantom is really all that OP like did he deserve his nerf personally i think his nerfed too much but whats your guys thoughts?


([ *O.C.B.* ] Wildcard) #2

@saltyCruller an added bonus for you sir:
http://www.funniestmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/Funniest_Memes_i-feel-lost_15033.jpeg
This is what goes through my mind when people complain about dying to him with how blatantly visible he is now. I do hope it gives you a good chuckle :stuck_out_tongue:


(Fiktio) #3

What do you mean exactly with “normal” at Phantom’s case? The one in beta or the one after the very first release in open beta or totally something else?
Interesting poll options. Went for second option, because it was closest option, even when it didn’t fit too well. Yet I still think that Phantom was nerfed too much.

However, I would love to see a small buff for Phantom, especially what comes about visibility of his cloak. I just find it ridiculous that Phantom is still clearly visible, even when he is standing still.

Phantom is my main merc and I would play with him even without abilities, but I still would like to see something done for his case.


(Ghosthree3) #4

Poorest thread title ever, he is absolutely not OP.


(_retired_) #5

He probably needs small buff. Maybe something to do with cloak (more invisibility/less damage sponge) and maybe simple recon ability (like clearer audio cues where opponents are moving behind the walls etc.)


(Yes) #6

Why is every option a question?


(XavienX) #7

Phantom needs to be awoken from his coffin.


(Fleshpound) #8

Maybe he is a Riddler.

And Phantom needs to get back to the buff train.


(Borganism) #9


(aRagRappy) #10

Phantom needs to be made into an actual stealth char with something to help the team whether it be something like giving info on enemy teams position or sabotaging them after he sneaks around them and being something someone could actually call a recon instead of playing like a worthless assault class. None of phantom’s iterations so far have this, so returning him to “normal” is pointless since he still wouldnt add anything to his team, and its pretty obvious he isnt OP, but I would say he has some major design issues.


(DMaster2) #11

Could use a buff but definitely nowhere near the pre-nerf levels, because that phantom was completly retarded.


(gg2ez) #12

Phantom needs to be minorly buffed. Attack speed and cloak duration or strength should do it.


(Telzen) #13

Cloak just needs to be slightly harder to see and he’ll be good. He’s not unplayable like so many people keep saying.


(screamnghedghog) #14

From his initial release (re-release I should say) I felt that if they removed or decreased his shield when invisible then he would be perfectly fine. The problem was that he could charge straight on, eat all the bullets, and then stabby stabby you to death. And he would then run of using the shield and hide and repeat.


(Grave_Knight) #15

Cloak duration isn’t to bad. Think a second or two should be shaved off the cooldown but I can live with how it is. His speed or health needs a buff, either give us back his 120 hp or boost his speed to 420. We also need cloak visiblity to go back how it was.


(Sussepus) #16

the only op thing about about phantom are all the forum threads he generates.