Increase the Player Base


(Iceqw) #1

Any ideas or suggestion how to increase our player base? is seriously decreasing at fast speed. today I had to wait more than 10 mins to find a competitive match in pick hours (3,215 players online) http://steamcharts.com/app/333930

This is great game, I am sure more people will hooked if they ever try it. Dont let the game die like many other great games out there. Please comment your ideas, suggestion for the devs.

best regards


(watsyurdeal) #2

Remove as much RNG as possible, make the competitive mode more enticing to play. And the only way to do that is to keep working on the anti cheat and game balance.

We’ll be fine, it’s not like CS GO had low numbers either when it first came out, everyone still wanted to play Source or 1.6.


(joekerr) #3

I think this game is headed for the graveyard. I won’t go into all the issues, because everyone knows what they are, but rather the one sign that is really bad:

As someone who has been playing since before the steam launch, a LOT of the names that were around back then and who continued to play and were lvl 30+ say a few months ago… you never see them in-game anymore.

The high ranking players… so the folks who liked the game and spend many hours playing it, seem to be tossing in the towel.

Whether it’s out of boredom, frustration at the lack of development, the unbalanced matchmaking… who knows.

But losing your vets and trying to sustain your game through an influx of new players, is a really really bad sign.


(Iceqw) #4

I agree with the matchmaking problem, they should fix, part of that problem is also lack of players. Also agree with the hacking problem, but tell me a game without hackers. that is a everyday fight, never stops.

About the gameplay what will you change? is perfect like it is. Even if they dont add more maps or more mercs will still will be fun. I am not saying there is not room for more content. of course there is. we can also have vehicules, choppers, EVs. bigger maps, but I just think is not the real problem. Problems are lack of players, prommotions, marketing, matchmaking and hacking.

Loudout Cards can also be improved, but wont you play even if you dont have them? Is just a detail.

IMHO


(Amerika) #5

Well, they have said the matchmaking system isn’t working exactly how they want. But with a game that doesn’t have LoL or CS:GO numbers it’s not going to be very good at perfectly matching up people or you’ll be waiting a LONG time for a match. The dilemma is that if you make people wait too long for a great match-up then they are upset that the system is broken and not letting them play as much as they want. Then if you allow the system to create worse match-ups but much quicker matches you get players upset that the MM system is broken due to constant stomps. That’s where MM is right now.

They definitely do need to provide more incentive and rewards for playing competition matches. Like another set of missions specifically for comp and rewards (like the new expert cases) for hitting them or a boost in credits rewarded. Encourage people to play through positive means and it will help resolve the balance issues as more players will want to play.


(Ardez1) #6

Well, with barely any current advertising here are the numbers from the last month.

While it has declined, it isn’t a rapid decline like what we saw after the Markiplier video(which attracted a large number of people who jump games as he does).

These are for concurrent users, not total users. Over the last 2 weeks 277k have tried the game or kept playing it and that is out of 2.1 million players.

Again, this is with basically only a couple of streamers and a giveaway on alienware as the advertisement.

And you waiting 10 minutes or more isn’t shocking, in particular with so many users avoiding competitive like a plague still. The problem you are seeing is with competitive, not the player base.


(Nail) #7

[quote=“joekerr;83310”]I think this game is headed for the graveyard. I won’t go into all the issues, because everyone knows what they are, but rather the one sign that is really bad:

As someone who has been playing since before the steam launch, a LOT of the names that were around back then and who continued to play and were lvl 30+ say a few months ago… you never see them in-game anymore.

The high ranking players… so the folks who liked the game and spend many hours playing it, seem to be tossing in the towel.

Whether it’s out of boredom, frustration at the lack of development, the unbalanced matchmaking… who knows.

But losing your vets and trying to sustain your game through an influx of new players, is a really really bad sign. [/quote]

they’re still playing and even more now, but they play private match or passworded servers, that’s why you don’t see them


(Jostabeere) #8

Why not just let the devs making things they think would increase the playerbase? I believe SD has a little bit more knowledge about it than we do?


(sirjj) #9

Yea I would like the see the player base go up more, the game is so much fun and has a lot of potential. More advertisement, maybe pay pewdiepie to … Nvm disregard that.

lol


(Ardez1) #10

[quote=“sirjj;83361”]Yea I would like the see the player base go up more, the game is so much fun and has a lot of potential. More advertisement, maybe pay pewdiepie to … Nvm disregard that.

lol[/quote]

That is the thing, I would rather they iron out some more issues before ramping up advertising, but that might just be me.

Maybe post Dome release make a big push? Would be nice for sure. Right now though I want to see a couple of more bugstomping patches and maybe some additional map balance.


(Black) #11

[quote=“Ardez;83362”][quote=“sirjj;83361”]Yea I would like the see the player base go up more, the game is so much fun and has a lot of potential. More advertisement, maybe pay pewdiepie to … Nvm disregard that.

lol[/quote]

That is the thing, I would rather they iron out some more issues before ramping up advertising, but that might just be me.

Maybe post Dome release make a big push? Would be nice for sure. Right now though I want to see a couple of more bugstomping patches and maybe some additional map balance.[/quote]

Well attracting players is one thing, but KEEPING players is a whole different ball game.

You can advertise around the whole world but if the players stay or not is the real question.


(sirjj) #12

[quote=“Ardez;83362”][quote=“sirjj;83361”]Yea I would like the see the player base go up more, the game is so much fun and has a lot of potential. More advertisement, maybe pay pewdiepie to … Nvm disregard that.

lol[/quote]

That is the thing, I would rather they iron out some more issues before ramping up advertising, but that might just be me.

Maybe post Dome release make a big push? Would be nice for sure. Right now though I want to see a couple of more bugstomping patches and maybe some additional map balance.[/quote]

I can agree with that, as long as the have plans for more advertising after they iron out the issues and make the game to captivate the players LONG term that would be great. I don’t want to see this game not succeed.


(Gi.Am) #13

3k is still pretty good, always keep in mind how similar non valve games are doing at the same time.

But the biggest question which country is OP from because depending on the country the playerbase could look quite different, I think the major playerbase is EU and US. Considering that comp only gets a fraction of the playerbase anyways it might take quite some time to get a comp match. But for EU it usually takes a bit over a minute before the first accept screen pops up and than a couple more till one goes through.


(neverplayseriou) #14

Imo they shouldn’t have gotten Markiplier as their biggest advertisement, yes he’s a great youtuber but he’s one of the people that will just fool around a bit and you won’t really see the potential the game has as a shooter.

The clips of frankieonpc1080p and jackfrags showed more about the game itself.


(MarsRover) #15

Shooters generally aren’t my thing. I’m here only because of TotalBiscuit’s video.


(ludicrousBlast) #16

I think polishes are great, and might help people stay more. The small details really help. Don’t get me wrong, new content is great but polishing things up helps a lot.


(FilterDecay) #17

angry joe’s video pisses me off. I normally listen to that guys reviews and take them to heart and I did do that with this game and discounted it. But it kept coming up and I tried it and I was like wtf none of his complaints were real.


(RyePanda) #18

Just get another round of trusted youtubers. That’s what brought me here.


(disguisedRocket) #19

[quote=“Ardez;83326”]Well, with barely any current advertising here are the numbers from the last month.

While it has declined, it isn’t a rapid decline like what we saw after the Markiplier video(which attracted a large number of people who jump games as he does).
(…)
Again, this is with basically only a couple of streamers and a giveaway on alienware as the advertisement.[/quote]
If you think there will be a massive advertisement event for the “official release”, you will be disappointed my friend. The Nexon PR already sent a lot of material to the press, they contacted journalists, set up interviews, etc. Unfortunately, I’m afraid that the glory days of Dirty Bomb are behind us.

It’s easy to play with numbers and graph, but if you look at the history since the popularity peak, you can see that the number of players dropped VERY fast:

It’s not hard to explain: the game requires skill and teamplay, it’s not built for everyone and there are a lot of new players who give up very fast. Now, the stream of new players is almost dry, that’s why the number of players is stabilizing, but it’s still decreasing because:

  1. vets get bored to play the same 5 maps
  2. it’s too hard to play competitively with all the bugs and hacks

The peak of players was <7000 when you took your screenshot last month. It will be <4000 next month. You can dream that the game will be officially released in the coming months, the cheaters will disappear, there will be 9-10 maps, a good competitive scene, no more cheaters and a massive promotional event that will attract ton of gamers which will not quit after 1 month… But it will be a painful awakening.