How CSGO became the 2nd most played game on steam.

(k1ruaa) #21

Ok I am weak I am going to complain about this one more time.

Just want to quickly say that the most successful FPS game (CSGO) has no Iron sight and thousands of people love it. If DB in it’s current state had less spread and no Iron sight, I am pretty sure that the whole communities at Crossfire and ESR would love it which is quite a lot of people already. And CS players could be interested as well.

I understand that it bring one more parameter to balance your mercs but… I don’t know if it’s worth the benefits. I know a lot of players will dislike the game because of it. People are generally tired of seeing only IS games (not everyone but a lot of players). Unlike SD said, IS is not automatically expected in a shooter game. CSGO proves that well.

And if the game is good anyway players will come play it. Doesn’t matter if there is no IS. (I know you won’t remove it but please keep it as some kind of zoom).

Love ;>

(onYn) #22

What is also interesting to point out, seeing how many people actually call specific game mechanics as “not fiting modern FPS games”, is the minor game changes that has been done. And it´s still successful…

(k1ruaa) #23

Well CS was a great game already, all it needed was new 1/ models/textures 2/ matchmaking, social features 3/ Advertising

It’s also the only things that ET would need to have a succesful remake. Not saying that DB is supposed to be but…

(Seanza) #24

[QUOTE=k1ruaa;500563]Ok I am weak I am going to complain about this one more time.

Just want to quickly say that the most successful FPS game (CSGO) has no Iron sight and thousands of people love it. If DB in it’s current state had less spread and no Iron sight, I am pretty sure that the whole communities at Crossfire and ESR would love it which is quite a lot of people already. And CS players could be interested as well.

I understand that it bring one more parameter to balance your mercs but… I don’t know if it’s worth the benefits. I know a lot of players will dislike the game because of it. People are generally tired of seeing only IS games (not everyone but a lot of players). Unlike SD said, IS is not automatically expected in a shooter game. CSGO proves that well.

And if the game is good anyway players will come play it. Doesn’t matter if there is no IS. (I know you won’t remove it but please keep it as some kind of zoom).

Love ;>[/QUOTE]

I know more people who have come from other games to CS and hated the fact there’s no ironsights than the other way around. They even use the AUG in CS:GO just to get that function. I know, laughable right?

As a F2P game, this needs to appeal to the masses. For players who don’t like playing with ironsights, they don’t need to use it. I tend to get most of my kills firing from the hip because that’s what I feel most comfortable doing. I have never felt that not using ironsights has hindered me in this game.

And for you CS fans, take a look at my tournament tonight on www.hitbox.tv/csarena :slight_smile: Fnatic vs. Team Global & Titan vs. Mouz.

(onYn) #25

So there really are people out there who stream on hitbox.tv as well :smiley:

(titan) #26

The thing about cs and lol/dota is that everytime you play it doesnt feel like your jumping into a pub but like you’re playing a scrim or pickup. I think back in the day there was a very clear divide between playing a scrim/pickup and playing a pub and it was the former that really kept people playing hardcore and caring about the game. The amazing matchmaking of cs and mobas means there’s no longer a divide between different styles of play (a meaningless pub and a skilled pickup/scrim) and every match feels important like a clan match, even if its just you and some mates vs randoms.
To me this is without a doubt the #1 reason these games are doing so well right now and hopefully DB will replicate this approach successfully

(Seanza) #27

Hitbox sponsoring the tournament, so yeah! :smiley:

(k1ruaa) #28

[QUOTE=Seanza;500581]I know more people who have come from other games to CS and hated the fact there’s no ironsights than the other way around. They even use the AUG in CS:GO just to get that function. I know, laughable right?
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But it does not prevent it to be the most successful FPS game so players accepted the fact that there is (almost) no IS.

So I can’t accept the argument that no IS will discourage players. Well some would be of course but nothing dramatic ;>

At least if crouching had the same benefits than iron sighting, we would have a real option not to use it if we dislike it.