Hi and yes I am new here, need help map making

(sadsack) #1

Hello,
First thing, does gtk radiant run on windos 7? I think I have 1.4 gtk.
Thank you
sadsack:stroggbanana:

(UJERebel) #2

For win7 it is best to use Netradiant :slight_smile:

(sadsack) #3

Thank you Rebel, I see if I can find that and download it, I hope it is free.
I have been making maps for about ten years now, but never made any for ET. So I going give it a try.
sadsack:stroggbanana:

(UJERebel) #4

It is indeed free. http://dev.alientrap.org/wiki/7

(ETJump-Zero) #5

I don’t know much about netradiant but if it’s anything like 1.5 you should just use 1.4. 1.5 has some nice features but a few important ones are missing which is why I prefer 1.4. Works on win 7.

(KeMoN) #6

Actually the newest version of NetRadiant is based on GtkRadiant 1.5. I agree with you that some nice features are missing in 1.5 (e.g. “paint select” surfaces for texturing). Nevertheless you should use GtkRadiant 1.5 or even better NetRadiant because it is just better for your mapping project. It prevents creating (badly) mutated brushes by vertex dragging, etc.
I only use NetRadiant, except when I have to texture many brushes (e.g. terrain), then I use 1.4 because of its “paint-select” feature.

Regards

(Destroy666) #7

I agree, NetRadiant>GTK because it’s more stable and has less bugs. And is still being updated.

(NewName) #8

With GTK Radiant 1.4 in Windows 7, you need to disable or enable some dialog feature. I can’t recall where it is as I’m not @ home PC, but it’s in there somewhere. If you do not do the save dialog change you will not be able to save your maps, or compile them.

I also recommend right clicking on Radiant 1.4 shortcut or .exe and disabling ‘desktop composition’, this stops any glitches happening in the 3D view, it sometimes doesn’t display correctly.

1.5 didn’t work on Windows 7 at all for me.

(sadsack) #9

Imake most of my map in light wave 9.6. This program is full of bugs. pulled one of my old computers out and loaded et and Gtk on it. It runs XP and was working fine yesterday. I made a nice small room and put some of my models in it, it looked good. I turn the computer on today and tryed to load Gtk and this is what I get.

I did not do anything that I did or did not do yesterday, it was working fine then, I hope some one can help.
sadsack

(sadsack) #10

Never mind I got it to work, boy what a pain that was, but I know what I did wrong now. thank you
sadsack

(stealth6) #11

[QUOTE=sadsack;395204]Never mind I got it to work, boy what a pain that was, but I know what I did wrong now. thank you
sadsack[/QUOTE]

Would you mind sharing the information for the next person?

(Runeforce) #12

I have no working experience with Radiant, (so I don’t know on the bugs and stability, except that is what the developers of Netradiant claim as their intentions with the fork on the frontpage of their website), but GTKradiant 1.6 (which is a continuation of 1.4, instead of 1.5) has been updated more frequently and recently then Netradiant* (no Netradiant update has been pushed in almost 2 years*, while a GTKradiant update was pushed 3 weeks ago.) So according to the repositories, Netradiant is not being developed*, while GTKradiant 1.6 is!

(The developing version, which currently is GTKradiant 1.6, is also known as ZeroRadiant.)

*I discovered this was not true! :o

(UJERebel) #13

Where do you find GTKradiant 1.6?

I only found zeroradiant 1.6 and 2011-04-05 is it’s latest build :s

(Runeforce) #14

Idk where to find the latest build. But if it is indeed that old (thereby missing a huge bunch of updates) you can always build it yourself.

(UJERebel) #15

Could you post the link to the repositotry? I would like to check it out and compare :smiley:
Thank you :slight_smile:

(Mateos) #16

I have Gtk 1.4/1.5, and Net/ZeroRadiant installed… And I prefer 1.4 because in others the shortcuts doesn’t work… Alt + Key Pad should enable/disable filters, what does 1.4, but the others need ****+Alt+Top numbers keys to work (Switching grid size? Haven’t found yet on these, or manually via menus); Plus when selecting a face with a transparent texture… Full transparent red face, really easy to see how move the texture this way for editing… Last week I just got used to the way of moving/stretching in 1.5 with the W/Q keys, I like it, but because of what I said I just did so once :confused: Dunno why, but everything’s fine in 1.4, excepted the Compatibility stuff checked and bad performances with Cubic View disabled (Here, only 1.5 isn’t “laggy” with it disabled). Maybe should I make a separated thread for this, or there’s already a solution waiting for me somewhere… Dunno, had searched for it some time ago, but since I’ve a working version I did not get tried too deep :confused:

(Runeforce) #17

http://svn.icculus.org/gtkradiant/

(Destroy666) #18

As I can see there was only one update, the rest was 11-14 months ago.

http://www.icculus.org/netradiant/files/

netradiant-1.5.0-20120301-win32-7z.exe exe 7.6 MB 01-03-2012

(Runeforce) #19

[QUOTE=Destroy666;395269]As I can see there was only one update, the rest was 11-14 months ago.

http://www.icculus.org/netradiant/files/[/QUOTE]

Hmmm…interresting. I was looking at the source code @ http://dev.alientrap.org/projects/netradiant/repository
I wonder what the binary releases you point at are build from…? Actually, there is a subversion repository on the same server you point to, but the source files has not been touched in almost two years, except it was removed 13 months ago!

EDIT: “Delete this, as we now are on git for ages (git://git.icculus.org/divverent/netradiant.git)”

(ailmanki) #20

http://git.xonotic.org/?p=xonotic/netradiant.git;a=summary

There I think is more or less the latest source.

@Kemon
Would you mind listing all things which are missing?
I got here a list of features/missing/different things… I only used netradiant … so I have no idea - those things I collected from the net: http://wet.peyote.ch/netradiant/tree-trunk