Having trouble enjoying the new maps.


(Hundopercent) #1

The following maps take me to a point of where I don’t even want to try.

Old Town - The main problem with this map is their is no safe spot on the objective and you can not reach the opposing team snipers without dying. I understand that you may have wanted a sniper favored map, which is fine, except that it’s impossible to 5 cap the objective and it’s also impossible to snipe their snipers and ultimately it turns into a massive stalemate until someone gets bored and decides to suicide onto the objective. Surprisingly the map is a lot of fun if both teams do not have a sniper.

Constructive criticism - Remove the ability to arty strike/snipe the person in the objective when they’re hiding behind the panels. This will force the opposing team to actually react and capture the objective (the point of the game.)

Favela - Whoever goes first wins on this map. Especially if you have Ivan/Gus or Famous Daves or Kate/MaDame on your team. You spawn, run to the choke or if you got skinny’s past the choke. You then lock them in their spawn and the game is over.

Constructive criticism - Fix the choke or fix the spawn so the person going second can have a chance when he gets locked in his spawn.

Beach - This map I want to like it but I can’t. This map is another stalemate for me. I never want to move any where near the objective because you can arty’d out from almost anywhere past your car and killed in 1 turn. I’m not really sure how to make this map better because it looks good and it looks like it should work but it just doesn’t for me. I often find myself just sitting undercover until my opponent makes a bad move and I wipe him out but that’s lame.

Constructive criticism - Add some sort of cover in the objective so their is a reason to capture it. It’s so open and you can shoot all inside of it while under cover and you have no way to retaliate.

I have won a lot of matches from take and hold conditions but since the release of these 3 maps, I have yet to take and hold a win or even get more than 3 blocks because I either die trying to cap or wipe out the other team within a few turns (unless it’s a 13+ turn stalemate.)

The good maps imo are construction and I think it’s called Centro. Both of those maps seem well balanced and it’s actually possible to capture the objective. I’m really starting to love construction it’s an excellent map with the way you can pinch people, capture the objective, and have healthy fun long range + short range battles.

Just thought I would give you some feed back on those new maps. Right now I just surrender on Favela if I get spawn locked or suicide on Old Town if the enemy just sits 5 squares out of his spawn waiting for me to move into Arty range. It is possible to have a good game on beach but I almost always find myself getting inpatient and running to the objective like both teams are supposed to be doing just so I can end the stalemate.


(Ciakgb) #2

I’ve won a lot of take n hold on all the new maps, but it definitely takes some work. I have trouble at beach too, the lack of cover in the zone makes it tough, although melee stuff is certainly in play.

I don’t know, I’ve been creaming guys going second at favela, bring an Ivan and a Gus, squirt him in and out with a mini. 9 times out of 10 I stun his entire army. Orbital strike!

You can ghost guys past the choke as well. Mine it with a meagan.

We had a whole thread recently on how to go no snipe at old town, it involved getting him to squander a couple artillery shells, then taking the the one covered square with a series of units till finally one lives that can’t be dislodged. Ghosting is an option too.

Don’t give up:)

Oh, and ps, try playing random maps like me, I never know what I’m going to get!


(Hundopercent) #3

[QUOTE=Ciakgb;444156]I’ve won a lot of take n hold on all the new maps, but it definitely takes some work. I have trouble at beach too, the lack of cover in the zone makes it tough, although melee stuff is certainly in play.

I don’t know, I’ve been creaming guys going second at favela, bring an Ivan and a Gus, squirt him in and out with a mini. 9 times out of 10 I stun his entire army. Orbital strike!

You can ghost guys past the choke as well. Mine it with a meagan.

We had a whole thread recently on how to go no snipe at old town, it involved getting him to squander a couple artillery shells, then taking the the one covered square with a series of units till finally one lives that can’t be dislodged. Ghosting is an option too.

Don’t give up:)

Oh, and ps, try playing random maps like me, I never know what I’m going to get![/QUOTE]

I only play 14 unless someone else picks a higher bracket and I always pick random. That’s how I got some of the no sniper old towns matches. I could bring Gus but I’ve been running mostly Madame and Famous Daves because of how brutal the double knock out is and being able to cap on the first round is rough to recover from sometimes as well.

I’m not sure of the skill level of your players if you’re able to 5 cap on Old Town.


(g00n) #4

Old town needs to fix the balcony part of map where you can’t chuck up or drop things over. I’ve been playing old town a bit in random. It is like WW I trench warfare and timing, plus getting opposition in wrong place. If you can get toon in without being knocked out of cover you will start to add pressure to opposition to go forward. But you will need to follow it up, have patience and expect to lose a few toons. Going second seems better chances for me if success. I still have game going 26+turns and opposition looks like he will fade I did a massive assault after recovering from near death, game into third week. Otherwise lasting 8-11 turns.

Favela is about placing toons in right spot. The choke area is a pain and clogs up large squads for area weapons getting at least two toons out can help, so light troops are good. I have fifty fifty chance of success going second.

Beach is not really about rushing into flag area, it is about eliminating as many of opposition and then succure key areas before sending a toon in or throwing in two or more when you start to out number opposition.

Other maps I don’t have, though played once on lapa.

What gets me is the symmetrical map balance I like to see opposite side layout have different barrier areas.


(Ciakgb) #5

I do seem to get odd play out of people when I play my Meagan’s, I’ve written about people getting spooked and dropping the cement block, effectively sealing them off from the





(Ciakgb) #6

Sorry one of those pics is wrong, but u get the idea…


(Ciakgb) #7

I haven’t won yet, but this game on old town I squirted an Ivan all the way to concuss his whole army. He died, but I got another Ivan to the score zone safe spot.

Next turn, I got a Gus there too. I concussed his whole army a second time:)





(Ciakgb) #8

…and then I got creamed:). Oh well, I tried to inspire you!!!


(Warchest_Andy) #9

I just tried to take on Old Town with melee LaHaques. I got them round to the enemy side but they died en masse after killing a Pete and a Gus. :frowning:

I have had someone wall themselves up on Favela too. The funny thing was, they went first. I do win some games on Favela when going second but this was by far the easiest! :slight_smile:


(g00n) #10

Favela - once blocked the choke hold square with a concrete block to stall the player (turn first) from moving his big boys in spawn area out and I could at least recover some of my toons in peace while dealing with a rogue one all two in flag area. I suddenly realised that was stupid it blocked me as well, lucky I had gus deal some damage to the crumbling block freeing me to rid a few of his toons, soo good that I had only his captain to kill after being one down. Just my luck to be totally surprised to have game end with me losing and not get any creds…think exp was done, so hopefully that bug is erradicated next update- soul destroying in a good battle especially when you thought bugger im losing. I had the opposite happen to me with damn juan snipe camping move one square and kill two of my wounded toons and now I have a race to get the last flag with my capt (out of abilities) vs Juan and his capt… gonna be hard down sniper alley.


(KINONEZ21) #11

Am I the only one that likes to go second of Favela?? I see it as a challenge and usually end up having a blast!! One of my most epic wins have been going second on favela with a sniper team just for a fun challenge, and I usually aim fr a take and hold in Favela, it’s easy but not impossible, I actually like that is harder to win by take and hold, makes the matches more interesting and it’s also nice to win by killing all of your opponents.


(Hundopercent) #12

Perhaps I need to broaden my play list but I feel the people I play vs are pretty good and only have a few lame stalemate games. Soon I will have my other skilless sniper cannon and will be running double madames lol that should be fun


(General_Rommel) #13

I agree with you, I don’t play Old Town or Lapa at all.

Nobody talks about Lapa, but stalemates will happen if a player is scared to advance from behind the 4-tile wall they have blocking from the centre. Particularly if there are orbital strikes involved.

Beach = decent map.
Favela = great if you’re first, but at least the matches are quick either way. Good to grind coins, but otherwise don’t like it at all.
Old Town = don’t play this at all anymore.

Construction = decent map
Centro = decent map
Lapa = don’t play this at all anymore.

So really only like half of the new maps, and really hate the other half.


(Ranger007) #14

can anyone invite me to the new maps? =P


(Warchest_Andy) #15

I’ll fire an invite out later. Which map do you want to play on?


(Ranger007) #16

the expansion ones
if not any map is fine to me too


(Ciakgb) #17

U can friend me, ranger, u owe me a rematch:)


(Warchest_Andy) #18

I have sent you a 20-point game on Construction. I couldn’t remember whether you preferred 20 or 26. If you want 26 or a different map I can send another game request later. Centro is a decent map, as is Beach. Lapa is okay too IMHO. If you want to try Old Town be advised that it is a sniper-fest so prepare accordingly. Favela is challenging to win on if you go second, although it can be done - I win about 50% on Favela when going second against randoms, which probably looks pretty poor if you’ve never played on Favela before! :slight_smile:


(Ciakgb) #19





The match is in doubt, but he has no more knockback s, take n hold win at old town with melee squad?


(Sandman77) #20

Construction ive only played once so far, invites are welcome also lapa :slight_smile:

Ciakgb I love our games, please more :slight_smile: