Grandeur SR | Aimee | G52 Expert Sniper Card

(ItsYaBoyNinja) #1

Hey everyone this is my first post and the reason I’m even on the forums is because I recently spent a lot of time farming credits and bough Aimee and opened the Detective Case and got a G52 Expert Sniper Card and after playing with it a little I noticed that the Grandeur SR need a major buff because as Aimee is pretty squishy (Low Health) I think the spread needs to be lowered and the damage possibly higher. Tell me what you think and lets hope the Dev’s do something about it! I’ve spent money on this game and it really disappointed me to see that I spent my time for something as useless as Aimee is now with the Grandeur SR!

Thank You for reading everyone!

(Dysfnal) #2

You have to think about Redeye as well, he’s not as squishy, and complements the grandeur very well with his smoke, allowing him to line up shots and have patience, you have to keep that in mind

(ItsYaBoyNinja) #3

True but keep in mind, that there are also a lot of people using Aimee with the Grandeur and I think it should be buffed but that’s all up to the Dev’s and players![quote=“Dysfnal;181155”]You have to think about Redeye as well, he’s not as squishy, and complements the grandeur very well with his smoke, allowing him to line up shots and have patience, you have to keep that in mind[/quote]

(CirclesofJerk) #4

When using the Grandeur with Aimee it lets you take full advantage of her mobility compared to Redeye, thanks to unscoped accuracy with proper recoil management. Try using it in a similar manner to a shotgun, alongside using it in mid-long range combat. Alongside the SNITCH you can down enemies in a heartbeat while you run laps around them.

(solace_) #5

If you use the grandeur properly, it isn’t underpowered. Hip fire + headshots and you will do fine. Dirty Bomb is all about skill so don’t expect to be good with something right off the bat. It takes time to become good at various mercs and their weapons.

(ProfPlump) #6

The Grandeur is an interesting gun… I’ve never quite gotten comfortable with it. I think that it could use an increase in damage up to 43 or 44 damage per shot, because right now its DPS is equal to that of the Blishlok, while the PDP’s DPS is much higher, which seems unfair considering that the PDP has a scope.

I hear peoples’ arguments that the Grandeur allows you to strafe faster, but to be honest now that Quick Eye is available for all sniper mercs that extra strafing speed from hipfiring is kind of unimportant, since players can strafe almost as fast while using the PDP.

The Grandeur to me is just one of those guns that is much harder to use (due to its low firerate in comparison to automatic weapons) but doesn’t actually give much of a reward for those who can account for those disadvantages (since it still has an incredibly low firerate).

The only situation that the Grandeur can beat these automatic guns is in medium to long range where the damage from their guns has dropped off but the Grandeur’s stays at 40, regardless of range. But when you consider that this range is the place where the Grandeur is supposed to shine, then why the hell would you choose it over the PDP which has much greater accuracy?

(frostyvampire) #7

Increase damage to 45 (from 40)
Add a new iron sight that will actually make you able to aim while using (or give it some kind of a mini-scope), this will at least make you actually able to use it as a sniper rifle instead of a combat rifle. Why is it even called Grandeur SR (Sniper Rifle) if it’s not a sniper?

(doxjq) #8

The Grandeur certainly doesn’t need a buff to its damage or it’s recoil imo. If you’ve only just bought her you just need time to adjust. It isn’t like other guns - you can’t just pick it up and be good with it right away. It has a very steep learning curve. It probably took me 20+ hours with the Redeye/Grandeur combo to be really good with it, and now Aimee is my highest kills/min merc with the Grandeur only and I’m putting out 56% accuracy with the Grandeur.

It’s supposed to be a long range weapon, but it really isn’t best used at very long range. It seems to fall nicely between the medium to long range where other guns suffer fall off damage but not so far away that you need to be scoping in. I personally choose the Grandeur over the PDP because a) I seem to hit just as accurately with the Grandeur when hipfiring as I do with the PDP scoped in and b) I prefer having the extra peripheral vision by not needing to ADS. It’s just preference, there is no right or wrong answer, but since I don’t use the Grandeur at very long distances I will never pick the PDP over it.

(ProfPlump) #9

[quote=“Dox;182937”]The Grandeur certainly doesn’t need a buff to its damage or it’s recoil imo. If you’ve only just bought her you just need time to adjust. It isn’t like other guns - you can’t just pick it up and be good with it right away. It has a very steep learning curve. It probably took me 20+ hours with the Redeye/Grandeur combo to be really good with it, and now Aimee is my highest kills/min merc with the Grandeur only and I’m putting out 56% accuracy with the Grandeur.

It’s supposed to be a long range weapon, but it really isn’t best used at very long range. It seems to fall nicely between the medium to long range where other guns suffer fall off damage but not so far away that you need to be scoping in. I personally choose the Grandeur over the PDP because a) I seem to hit just as accurately with the Grandeur when hipfiring as I do with the PDP scoped in and b) I prefer having the extra peripheral vision by not needing to ADS. It’s just preference, there is no right or wrong answer, but since I don’t use the Grandeur at very long distances I will never pick the PDP over it. [/quote]

I didn’t say that I’d only just bought her, nor did I say that I hadn’t put time into learning the gun. I have 9 hours with the Grandeur, over 1,000 kills and an accuracy of 34.8%.

The problem I have with the Grandeur is that it is more of a jack of all trades weapon. For the ranges that you were talking about (mid to long range) I’d rather have something that I can fire faster (such as a Driess or a PDP) without suffering such massive accuracy losses. The Grandeur, in those ranges, either has ADS and spamfire (which gives you poor visibility and therefore poor accuracy) OR to hipfire and slow down its shots to reduce the spread (which means you’re dropping the already-poor DPS from 120 down to around 80-100 DPS, wheareas the PDP and Driess can maintain their full DPS values while spam firing at full firerate.

The only thing that the Grandeur can do that makes it ‘better’ than the Dreiss and the PDP are the following:

  1. It’s slightly better than the Dreiss at extreme long ranges because its damage does not drop over range like the Dreiss’ does (although the Grandeur will still always lose in these situations to a PDP/MOA/FEL-IX anyway).
  2. It’s much better in close range than the PDP, as it can hipfire effectively (although the Grandeur is still at a huge disadvantage to pretty much every other kind of gun since it A) has such a slow firerate that missing one shot is a HUGE problem and B) it’s DPS is still only 120 which, as we know from using the Blishlok (which has the same DPS) is not exactly the most effective DPS you can get.

Basically it’s an all-purpose weapon that isn’t the ‘best’ at anything. On top of that, it’s got a massively high skill requirement compared to most other guns while not giving back anywhere near the level of reward that other guns provide.

(watsyurdeal) #10

Imo the Grandeur is her best primary, it does everything you need it to, my only gripe is that I wish the accuracy were more consistent. For example.

In the stats, you’ll see the words “accurate range”, this means the gun is guaranteed to hit a target the size of someone’s head, up to that distance, every single time assuming your aim is true.

This is what Splash Damage should fine tune on EVERY gun imo, ensuring that 100% of the shots you fire will hit a head on that first shot, and then bloom from there.

If I can’t hit a target that’s 1 m in front of me at max spread, that also need to be changed, cause that’s bull shit. I don’t care how fast I am spamming shots, I need to be able to at least hit that knifer who’s in my face.

(Tanker_Ray) #11

[quote=“Watsyurdeal;183052”]Imo the Grandeur is her best primary, it does everything you need it to, my only gripe is that I wish the accuracy were more consistent. For example.

In the stats, you’ll see the words “accurate range”, this means the gun is guaranteed to hit a target the size of someone’s head, up to that distance, every single time assuming your aim is true.

This is what Splash Damage should fine tune on EVERY gun imo, ensuring that 100% of the shots you fire will hit a head on that first shot, and then bloom from there.

If I can’t hit a target that’s 1 m in front of me at max spread, that also need to be changed, cause that’s bull @$!#. I don’t care how fast I am spamming shots, I need to be able to at least hit that knifer who’s in my face. [/quote]

Very ironic, Granduer is her only option to fight CQC well.

I would rather prefer PDP + Quick Eye on her.

Things would change if she got machine pistol like Vassili, but yeah.

(pumpkinmeerkat) #12

I received the same loadout from the detective case and didn’t think much of it since most of my limited hours with Aimee have been with the Fel-ix. The Grandeur is powerful in a lot of situations but takes a while to get used to IMO. I find it frustrating to use sometimes as it can feel very inconsistent in terms of accuracy but really I just need more time with it to figure out the proper timing for accurate shots. I think just adding a better sight would make it much more viable.

(frostyvampire) #13

Why would you ever use an auto sniper if you can use bolt action? MOA > FEL-IX >>> PDP >>>>> Grandeur

(ProfPlump) #14

Check the competitive meta - it’s mostly PDP sniping with Redeye now, rather than anyone with a MOA/FELIX