getting defaultmaps source

(eiM) #1

hi splashdamage & others,

after I read this forum post on Crossfire.nu I got into discussion with several people about owner rights & Splashdamages position to it.

What I thought is, that you & ID & Activision dont like to see your maps like oasis,fueldump being edited (goldrush is included, so special case) and stop mappers from doing new stopwatch / tournamen edition versions for competition play.
That was also the point I stated at the posted forumthread, but some people told me that e.g. for SW Oasis , the mapper got the approval to edit it & even got the sourcefile for it (true?).

So generally my questions are:
Does SD give out mapsources to known,dedicated and reliable mappers? (not talking of me just interested)
If the first is not the case, do they stop mappers from releasing changed maps like oasis if they decompiled them & fixxed all the bugs?

Would be nice to see some answers here

best regards, eiM

(Dinius) #2

Just as a off-the-mainpoint…
If u decompile one of the originals, and fix all textures, bugs, etcetcetcetc… Just in order to make a “new version” of it, that time would be MUCH more well spent at a new map instead. By the time you’d have a (near)perfect version of the map, you would’ve had a fairly good new map made from scratch as well, imo at least :slight_smile:

Personally I can’t see a really good reason why SD wouldn’t want to release the mapsources either though, its not like Goldrush as a map has been ruined or something like that because its source is released.

(Dlug!) #3

devs stopped supporting this game some time ago and its dying slowly on their request. Bad move but they do not want to hear the voice of ET communities, they love their new child -> ET:QW, but this is a lonely & selfish love

(kamikazee) #4

[QUOTE=Dinius;177335]Personally I can’t see a really good reason why SD wouldn’t want to release the mapsources either though, its not like Goldrush as a map has been ruined or something like that because its source is released.[/QUOTE]Ehr, search these forums for “not another goldrush”. Sure-fire way of getting results!

The map sources are not to be given out soon, and decompiling official maps can be seen as a form of reverse engineering (and thus illegal according to the EULA).

All of this doesn’t mean you can’t get away with it, but I’ll rather credit someone who made a map from scratch than someone who blatantly stole it.
The grey zone between “stealing” and “improving” is a part I won’t wander into, seeing how I once released ET Headshot 2 (though with the author’s permission and everything). If you don’t have the explicit permission of the author, I deem it “stealing”.

(Dinius) #5

EXACTLY @ the “not another goldrush” stuff… If people got permission to edit these maps, it wouldnt become popular, any idiot can see that:P at least not with any revolutionary stuff, these maps have been played for 5 years, making minor modifications wont make them more popular. But thats one side of it, on the other hand it could be useful to some\many people, aaand making realjump (trickjump) maps would be easier :stuck_out_tongue:

\failed @getting my point out but #care

(Nail) #6

HUH ???

when did the devs post that they stopped supporting ET ?

(Dlug!) #7

[QUOTE=Nail;177350]HUH ???

when did the devs post that they stopped supporting ET ?[/QUOTE]

dude, look around

The map sources are not to be given out soon, and decompiling official maps can be seen as a form of reverse engineering (and thus illegal according to the EULA).

its a theory, the true fact is that they dnt give a sh!t -> look @ number of cheats for et, this is the most obvious example

(Igloo) #8

Yeah, they don’t care about ET. Shit QW is a big fail anyway :slight_smile:

No sources are given… why? Just because :slight_smile: No one says “yes” or “no”, simply no care :wink:

Greetings,
Igloo

(Nail) #9

I certainly hope you don’t base real life situations on the types of baseless assumptions you guys make

(kamikazee) #10

[QUOTE=Dlug!;177351]its a theory, the true fact is that they dnt give a sh!t -> look @ number of cheats for et, this is the most obvious example[/QUOTE]Heh, so what are they supposed to do about cheaters? Sue anyone who is cheating? I bet it’ll take a lot of lawyers just to get one server clean…

(stealth6) #11

I don’t know where you guys play, but I dont know many servers that have problem with cheaters…

(Dinius) #12

Naive… :stuck_out_tongue: :rolleyes:

(stealth6) #13

tsss seriously, I know the difference between a cheater and skillz and I have seen no cheaters on any of the servers I play on

Just because you go to shitty servers don’t think that all servers are like that

(Dinius) #14

[QUOTE=stealth6;177391]tsss seriously, I know the difference between a cheater and skillz and I have seen no cheaters on any of the servers I play on

Just because you go to shitty servers don’t think that all servers are like that[/QUOTE]

Stupid comment, even for you :stuck_out_tongue:
Im gonna keep the on-topic stuff going, u play etpro?

(stealth6) #15

nope
etpro is for guys who think the world revolves around them (except tj)
most of the time when etpro guys come to our server they are not welcomed, cause they just spam with noob / 2v1 / panzernoob / got some aim / etc…

(Dinius) #16

Ok so you’re a retard… :stuck_out_tongue: :stuck_out_tongue: \leaves discussion :stroggbanana:

(Magic) #17

Rolig Denius - hvilken språkbruk er dette?

(Dinius) #18

Soz Ill try to stay away from english from now :stuck_out_tongue:

(eiM) #19

good spamming sensless stuff into this thread…
i once hoped to get a reply by someone from SD but i say bb for now

(stealth6) #20

[QUOTE=eiM;177419]good spamming sensless stuff into this thread…
i once hoped to get a reply by someone from SD but i say bb for now[/QUOTE]

oO, You hoped to get a reply from somebody from SD, lol
Last time I saw them post here was…
Well actually I have never seen a post from them here since I joined