Friendly Flash Bangs

(SereneFlight) #21

…because Dirty Bomb is known for it’s realism…

(3N1GM4) #22

…because Dirty Bomb is known for it’s realism…[/quote]

Thanks for reading…

(FalC_16) #23

good old days in CS 1.6 friendly flashbangs did blind you and at the same time friendly frag nades didn’t do any dmg. …um I think this won’t work in DB. Especially not when it blinds you from 30 metres away lol

(Aazhyd) #24

Isnt the problem bigger than that? I threw a conc nade to the EV on Chapel, from a distance, and got blinded by it. This happened several times. Also if I throw it in a room (while standing outside), I get blinded too.

For me this means conc nade is close to useless. Is it bugged?

(Jan S.) #25

Noticed yesterday on execution too. I thought there is an enemy thunder near me, but it was friendly.

(Mister__Wiggles) #26

The range in the flashbangs is a problem too. If you happen to see a flashbang across the map which is likely, you WILL be blinded. This shouldn’t happen. Everything else about thunder is fine though, his lmg is fun and if you can aim then it’s incredible, a nice change of pace from the k121.

(Szakalot) #27

@Mister__Wiggles
Confirmed bug

http://forums.warchest.com/showthread.php/46434-Argh-I-m-blind?p=541889&viewfull=1#post541889

(Rjsto) #28

Friendlies can’t really look through Redeye’s smoke either, annoying, but I got used to it quite fast. That is, if the hitbox on the grenades made any sense, lol

(Jostabeere) #29

Sorry, that’s not an argument. While the smoke is avoidable, you get flashed for 100% of the time a friendly Thunder throws a nade and you look into it.

(Rjsto) #30

Sorry, that’s not an argument. While the smoke is avoidable, you get flashed for 100% of the time a friendly Thunder throws a nade and you look into it.[/quote]

Well I didn’t mean I necessarily liked it, but luckily it doesn’t do more than obscure your vision. In case DB players were as tactical as players in CS competitive, friendly flashes would be great, don’t be a dum dum if you wanna win. In a case where friendlies just thrown endless concussion grenades, I can learn to live with that but with clenched buttocks

(PeneTraitor) #31

Turn friendly fire on. Boom, problem solved

(god1) #32

Friendly flashing is currently bugged which makes it much more severe than intended but friendly flashing is supposed to happen even with friendly fire off.
http://forums.warchest.com/showthread.php/46434-Argh-I-m-blind?p=541916&viewfull=1#post541916

(SiegeFace) #33

Didn’t realise that this happens, now I know what to do when friendlies don’t give ammo or health.

(Jan S.) #34

This. So much this.

(Black) #35

[quote=“Szakalot;114367”]@Mister__Wiggles
Confirmed bug

http://forums.warchest.com/showthread.php/46434-Argh-I-m-blind?p=541889&viewfull=1#post541889[/quote]

/thread
It is a bug and they are probably going to fix it in the next patch.

No offense, but I don’t understand why some of y’all are trying to rationalize this.
It makes zero sense for the flash to affect teammates when friendly fire is off.
No other AoE ability from mercs damage friendlies with it off so why should the flash do it?

Honestly, what more is there to discuss in this thread?

(Amerika) #36

[quote=“Jostabeere;114301”][quote=“Amerika;114189”]

I know it is sort of out of line with most everything else in the game but if he didn’t flash his teammates, at least in this minimal way, the flash would be extremely powerful since it’s blind radius is pretty big. You could have a whole team push into an area and not be blinded while the entire room of enemy players is blind if you didn’t have team flash on. Or a Thunder on defense could throw one and have his teammates mop up after it went off on a push.

Basically, people are going to need to start using flashbangs intelligently. It will take a while to get used to it.[/quote]

Airstrikes deal massive AoE damage and don’t harm teammates. Exploding C4 don’t harm teammates. Frag grenades don’t. Fire or a laser beam don’t affect the teammates because some weird-futuristic things. Why is the concussion nade for teammates, too?
SD should make everyting with the intention “to use intelligently” or nothing.[/quote]

You can’t airstrike a small room and then have your whole team walk in and easily clear it. You also can’t defend against a push by Flashing your whole team that is being offensive and turn only your back for a short second with an airstrike. And a Fragger grenade doesn’t make a whole room of people basically worthless.

There are just too many ways to abuse it if used properly and in time people will figure out. I could be wrong but there is a reason why every other game that I am aware of has flashbang’s that will also flash yourself/your team even with FF Off.

(Litego) #37

Pubs, not ever gonna happen.

I don’t fully disagree that flashes should affect teammates. I just think they shouldn’t be as powerful as against enemies with FF off.

(Mister__Wiggles) #38

So wait that flashbang bug made it past testing? So he must have been rushed out just so they could cash in on him…

(Sir_Slam) #39

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If I wanted to get team flashed, I’d go to my dumpster and pull out CS:GO again.

I don’t mind team flashing if FF is on, but if it’s off its off.