Fragger or Stoker

(Sora80) #1

Hello guys
as title says i want probably frager or stoker i want something with assault rifle i was probably thinking more about stoker but looks like nobody play him im new to this game i’d like something good as killing class for objective mods mainly i have aura as medic and now i want damage class any ideas what should i buy at the moment? i think thunder will be nerfed soon so i dont want to risk buying him and wasting my 50000 thanks for all advices.

(Weekendwarrior) #2

Stoker is more well rounded being a fire support. He can get kill well, get you support xp from giving out ammo, ammo badges are easy to achieve too. You can throw the molotov at the EV for game mode xp, its a bit of a waste though.

And not to mention you can throw the molotov on objectives stop enemies from defusing and area denial etc.

And molotovs don’t need to be cooked so its easier to use than the frag grenade as well. And you don’t have to rely on teamates or ammo stashes for ammo :slight_smile:

(Supersneaky) #3

Stoker is great esp. For a newer player since fragger takes more skill.

Stoker gets support exp. From ammo station, great at area denial, Does decent damage to evs and objective generators and has a well balanced hp/movement speed with easy to use weapons, would highly recommend him you’ll earn alot more exp meaning faster creds for your next purchase (when you might be more ready for fragger).

Hope that helps :smile:

(terminal) #4

Fragger’s a solid choice since he has high health and strong weapon choices. His Frag grenade can be easily mastered to clear rooms and decimate groups of enemies. Stoker has a molotov that can block off chokes and lesser impressive weapon choices. He doesn’t have to worry about ammo and his molotov can be used to pick up 1 - 2 kills on newer players easily however the cooldown is 4 times of the frag grenade’s. I would recommend Fragger over Stoker if you want to get more killing power out of your purchase.

(SaulWolfden) #5

Fragger is primarily a killer though his grenades can be used to some effect on objectives.

However Stoker is far better if you’re going for objectives and especially either clearing an area of enemies (like an Aura station) or defending an objective. He’s one of the best if not the best at area denial. His molotov also does more damage to the EV reliably than Fragger’s grenade.

(copperCucumber) #6

fragger is my favorate merc and i get top scores like 60/30 in min 10 server and im only lv14
stoker is good im not gonna lie but he has a moly only every 40 sec
and the ammo usually you have a skybro or farty in your team so thats not a big deal
but you have to concider that fragger is very slow comparing his health and he very reliable on medics and fire support mercs
so…

(copperCucumber) #7

i have fragger in my squad as my main merc and kira and sparx if there is no medics or fire support
sparx and fragger are my fav mercs and kira is 2nd place

(Sora80) #8

Hello
thanks for all opinions i will probably go for stoker then because i want to bring some help for team like mentioned ammo or molotov to stop enemy push or something like that i dont know what card is best for stoker i will probably go for timik-47 any ideas what is best card for stoker? (bronze card)

(Supersneaky) #9

T52 is a sweet card, otherwise go for a stark card if you want to focus on killing

(Sora80) #10

i dont like burst-weapons here because they are more like medium-long range since im most likely close-middle range so probably T52 card then i guess

(Supersneaky) #11

T52 gives you mechanic so you can help arm/diffuse/repair objs faster so your an all in one merc, the other augments will give you better killing potential :slight_smile:

(Sora80) #12

looks like its card good for me so if i understand i have kinda good killing potentional im kinda engineer and i have a molotov tho im watching stoker videos now but a lot people use maybe 1molotov per 5minutes i wonder if its that rare so they save it for something?

(frostyvampire) #13

Stoker is easier to use and a lot more helpful. He can give ammo and stop enemies from rushing or defusing.
Fragger is a merc that requires a lot of skill and practice, he can’t give ammo and his grenade requires cooking and takes time, with Stoker you can just panic molotov and get a kill

(terminal) #14

[quote=“FrostyVampire;187495”]Stoker is easier to use and a lot more helpful. He can give ammo and stop enemies from rushing or defusing.
Fragger is a merc that requires a lot of skill and practice, he can’t give ammo and his grenade requires cooking and takes time, with Stoker you can just panic molotov and get a kill[/quote]
“a lot of skill and practice”
HOW TO PLAY FRAGGER:

  1. PICK A GUN
    a. HIGH DAMAGE GUN
    b. LASER BULLET TECHNOLOGY
    c. SUPER DPS BURST THING
  2. SHOOT THINGS
  3. REALIZE YOU’LL ALWAYS WIN A 1V1 SINCE YOU HAVE HIGH HEALTH AND GOOD WEAPONS AS LONG AS YOU AIM
  4. COOK GRENADES
    a. LOOK AT FINGERS
  5. THROW
  6. DECIMATE GROUPS

not to mention Stoker’s molotov’s cooldown is 4 times Fragger’s nades.

(Equanimity) #15

HOW TO PLAY STOKER:

  1. PICK A GUN
    a. GANGSTER-47
    b. LASER BULLET TECHNOLOGY
    c. SUPER DPS BURST THING
  2. DISPENSE INFINITE AMMO / FREE MINIATURE WALL
  3. SHOOT THINGS
  4. REALIZE YOU’LL ALWAYS WIN A 1V1 BECAUSE YOU CAN JUST PANIC MOLLY
  5. PANIC
  6. THROW MOLLY (THANK GOD NO COOKING)
  7. DECIMATE GROUPS AND DENY AREAS
  8. SPAM BULLETS WHILE ON COOLDOWN
(Sora80) #16

well i played some games as stoker and im probably bad or idk we always lose games but i guess its how this game works being matched as lvl 6 against lvl 139 50 and 88 when having in team lvls maximum 10 is probably how balance works not to mention they dont even want to shuffle. any types for stoker how to not suck using timik-47 how to use molotovs (like use it only in rare situation or when its on cooldown just throw it somewhere) thanks for advices overall i think now i wasted 50000 but its probably because i suck as aura i had no problem having 30000 score in stopwatch with stoker im happy if i have 10000

(n-x) #17

The timik is not a Laser. If you notice you miss too often take a really short break to adjust your aim. Continue Shooting. That way you will get a feeling for the gun. As the timik pulls upwards focus on pulling it down while Shooting.

Remember you have 120 hp which is nice but doesn’t make you a tank. As long as you don’t have the feeling for the timik play a bit more Defensive, stay close to cover and Retreat early if you have the feeling a 1vs1 doesn’t go your way. Focus on mastering the timik. If you get it right it’s a super powerful weapon.

Molotovs are primarily for denying areas. So, if your team has planted the C4 but can’t defend it, throw the C4 on it. If you see an Aura Station with mercs around it, throw it on it. The Aura Station should be your target.

And of course you got more xp with Aura. She is the xp wh0re of the game

(Weekendwarrior) #18

Don’t aim down sights with Timik, recoil is somehow worse even hipfiring. Don’t shoot too far with it. And aim at neck level.

And learn where to put ammo station. Ammo badges are easy to achieve and badges is what gets you high scores.

(Nibbles02) #19

Fragger has high stopping power and can quickly clear rooms and lock down small areas, but unlike Stoker, he can’t hold them or commit area denial because he’s a pointman, not fire support. As a Stoker, don’t rush, stick with your team, and flame doorways and congested areas with a lot of enemies. The molotov will also explode on contact with other players, so don’t be afraid to aim a bit higher if you think you’ll hit their feet otherwise.

I’ve found that the M4A1 and the Stark are better choices for players learning to aim, because the M4 has a larger ammo capacity and a balanced range and rate of fire, making it versatile and strong in most situations, but the Stark is good for learning medium-range and how to aim for the head, as you’re unable to spray everywhere. If you get rushed, don’t be shy to throw a molotov at the door or at the ground because it’s meant to cut off areas and break enemy defenses/offenses.

(terminal) #20

[quote=“Equanimity;187510”]HOW TO PLAY STOKER:

  1. PICK A GUN
    a. GANGSTER-47
    b. LASER BULLET TECHNOLOGY
    c. SUPER DPS BURST THING
  2. DISPENSE INFINITE AMMO / FREE MINIATURE WALL
  3. SHOOT THINGS
  4. REALIZE YOU’LL ALWAYS WIN A 1V1 BECAUSE YOU CAN JUST PANIC MOLLY
  5. PANIC
  6. THROW MOLLY (THANK GOD NO COOKING)
  7. DECIMATE GROUPS AND DENY AREAS
  8. SPAM BULLETS WHILE ON COOLDOWN[/quote]
    You can at least change the gun names to be more original.
    Also, panic molly does nothing but hurt your team and will put 40 seconds down on your cooldown. So no, it’s not “every 1v1” unless you only feel like fighting every 40 seconds and decide to just hide when the molotov is on cooldown.
    P.S you’re welcome for the free LOL by copying me