Fragger desperately needs a nerf

(ARTiER) #61

[QUOTE=fubar;526582]Disagree. Can’t speak for Draceus, haven’t seen him much, but art1er is utterly useless. He’s got a bit of aim but that’s essentially all he got going for himself. Has 0 game awareness, never utilizes his nades and is utterly and completely worthless without syku babysitting him. Want to beat artier? Throw a nade behind him, always guaranteed to get a medic or two. Always. At that point he’ll get full without ever having done anything useful, works 9 out of 10 times. For crying out loud, we played them on trainyard yesterday and set a 5minute time while I had a permanent ping of 700 on attack, effectively turning it into a 4vs5.

There are far, far better players … [/QUOTE]

(chickenNwaffles) #62

Just keep all your opinions to yourself. You can’t have a (good) opinion on something you “barely” play rofl. The k121 is the best rifle in the game. The fact that you would take some more nade explosion radius over it is just silly.

(Rémy Cabresin) #63

You mean how you made a massive post about nader 3 days after she was released? My opinion is mine and based on my experience, just because you disagree doesn’t mean I can’t state my opinion. Learn definitions before you open your waffle.

(chickenNwaffles) #64

Let’s be real for a minute. I never said you can’t state your opinion. I just said that your opinion is bad.

After playing nader for 3 days straight in both pubs and mm it was fairly easy to tell that she was weak. Oh, and would you look at that? Today pixel posted a thread that literally states all of my proposed changes too! It would take me a day to realize that Fragger is overpowered… rofl.

(INF3RN0) #65

Just a friendly reminder that you should make sure not to build a “NUTTY Gamers” rep this early in the game by dismissing everyone else’s opinions because you are beating teams atm. There are plenty more good players than there are good teams, so the conclusions many individuals come to is from unbiased experience within fairly high skill level and balanced pugs. I don’t agree with a lot of things people say when it comes to balance because it is common place for skilled gamers to think they represent peak play after only a few days and make selfish demands, however there are many things that can be taken into account as facts and not impulse- especially when it comes to mercs that haven’t really changed for over a year. There are too many other variables in play when it comes to clan wars which will skew true balance deficiencies. Hopefully that makes sense.

(Rémy Cabresin) #66

[QUOTE=chickenNwaffles;526835]Let’s be real for a minute. I never said you can’t state your opinion. I just said that your opinion is bad.

After playing nader for 3 days straight in both pubs and mm it was fairly easy to tell that she was weak. Oh, and would you look at that? Today pixel posted a thread that literally states all of my proposed changes too! It would take me a day to realize that Fragger is overpowered… rofl.[/QUOTE]

So when I play Fragger for a while in both pubs and mm, my opinion is bad. But when you do it it suddenly good. Also there are plenty of people who share my opinion about Fragger which nullifies your comment about PixelTwitch. You clearly still haven’t read up on what the definition of an opinion is have you?

(LiNkzr) #67

To be honest I think everyone can agree that nader is too weak currently for the role she’s supposed to fill and just by looking at stats of the weapons k-121 is the strongest. Reload time might backfire but what does it matter when you can kill whole enemy team with one clip.

also can we finally stop talking about whos team and this team, it’s super frustrating, people talking trash all over the place when some teams formed one to two week ago, do you really expect them to have great team work or know how to play the game together, I don’t even know my teammates by name yet. And the fact no one gets good practice since no teams are in MM.

(chickenNwaffles) #68

No, saying “Hurr durr, I barely play fragger, but here is my ****ty opinion anyway” makes you sound unintelligent, ignorant, and arrogant. Please, just trying to sound like you know everything about this game, because you play on sick6.

Sick6… more like SickSUCKS :cool:

(ARTiER) #69
(Szakalot) #70

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to ARTiER again. :smiley:

(Rémy Cabresin) #71

[QUOTE=chickenNwaffles;526848]No, saying “Hurr durr, I barely play fragger, but here is my ****ty opinion anyway” makes you sound unintelligent, ignorant, and arrogant. Please, just trying to sound like you know everything about this game, because you play on sick6.

Sick6… more like SickSUCKS :cool:[/QUOTE]

Coming from an american that sounds quite ironic isn’t it. I never claimed to know everything about the game, neither have I ever claimed that sick6 is the best team or even necessarily among the top teams. Honestly most of the time I find this talk about who beats who rather useless since the game is not even close to fully live yet, all I’ve ever said that in the long run the way some teams play doesn’t work, which I don’t say because I play for sick6, I say it because its simply true. Relying to much on 1/2 players doesn’t make a good team<-. Which was proven today, we played v586 with 4 of the sick6 lineup and it was the first time that I saw their medics do more than just holding defibs which resulting in them being a lot stronger and winning against us on two maps, which is the first losses we’ve had in about 2/3 weeks of playing this game actively with 3/4 of the same sick6 guys. I am man enough to admit they defeated us regardless of excuses, which I gave them credit for ingame aswell. Which is obviously met with trashtalking but thats what competitive teams do, we do it, they do it. I honestly don’t give a **** about that, neither do they(I hope). But some extremely mediocre american player comes around the corner trying to provoke me without, apparently, knowing the definition of opinion is just a joke to me. Especially when he calls me arrogant(and anyone who knows me more than 3/4 comments on a forums knows that I’m probably the furthest from arrogant you can be) when he labels himself the best sniper NA and then completely stops playing sniper when he can’t handle the sniper mechanics in the game anymore :’)

(LiNkzr) #72

I don’t mind having some “rivals” or something along those lines (lame) but unnecessary trash-talking isn’t healthy, hope we can be more friendly and constructive.

(Rémy Cabresin) #73

Agree(tho trashtalking is just part of gaming, watch any csgo stream from teams with ingame coms its just part of it), I dont feel like anyone has crossed that line tbh :stuck_out_tongue: If I have feel free to tell me (except in your case, CMON SNIPER IS JUST A STUPID PICK huehue :D) Fact that we were pugging with each other earlier sorta proves that to me ^^

(LiNkzr) #74

I thought I did fine on terminal at least :slight_smile: I know trash-talking is part of gaming but we don’t even have a proper scene yet so this just feels like toddlers lashing each others, we just should focus doing a good game b4 we start going at each others throats.

(ARTiER) #75

I think “some1” crossed the line, tbh.:slight_smile:

(Smooth) #76

This is getting out of hand with some of the comments being thrown around.

Keep it clean in the future please.