Fragger after the last patch.


(Mister__Wiggles) #1

So fragger after the last patch has become way more interesting to play, now that the K-121 is more than viable it gives you an option other than the always reliable M4. So with that being the case whats his best loadout now? Is it still the elite rifle man with the M4 or one of the k-121 loadouts?

Also on a side not, has anyone experienced the invisible nade bug with fragger? You throw it and it seems to not have landed but you still get the splash damage or the kill.


(Ghosthree3) #2

Unshakable is still a trump card imo.


(Edzer) #3

M4 still gonna be the gun to go with for me at least, just don’t like how the K-121 works even after the patch. And yes, the indoor airstrike kills as fragger are interesting lol.


(Mister__Wiggles) #4

@Ghosthree3
Yeah that seems to be the same opinion I’ve encountered in game. Personally, I favour the K-121 because its different and offers a different playstyle and the thing is filthy in close range fights. I’m interested to see what the future loadout changes SD have mentioned will bring. Because it seems for most mercs theres one loadout that reigns supreme and the others are just ‘meh’. Fletcher and nader have a couple of really good loadouts to choose from. Maybe a K-121 with unsheakable will come one day. Bunga Bunga from PKD got me in love with the LMG, the guy is just nasty with it lol.


(Amerika) #5

The M4 will still be used in serious competitive play because of Unshakeable. It’s still, and always has been, the reason why the M4 was preferred on Fragger at high levels of play. Many people interpreted the meta shift over to the M4 as the M4 simply being a better gun. It’s not and never was. Not dying to the other teams Fragger or Nader explosions trumps the slight killing power increase the LMG offers over the M4.

It’s funny how this has worked out. High level comp teams use a Fragger with LMG. Then they figure out their Fragger doesn’t die/get gibbed when running the M4 with Unshakeable…everyone switches to that quickly. LMG is nerfed in there so everyone assumes it’s due to the LMG being awful when it was always good. Now the LMG gets buffed again but it still doesn’t change the meta much since Fragger and Nader explosives are still pretty impactful at the high end of the competitive spectrum.

Yes, some people prefer the M4. It’s a good gun and it’s a lot easier to use. So some will honestly believe that it’s the best setup because it is the best setup for them. But that’s not why the high end of the comp spectrum switched.


(Mister__Wiggles) #6

I traded up a gold fragger last night in hope of getting a loadout with the K-121 and I luckily got it in cobalt so I was pleased. I can’t remember what card it was exactly though and can’t check because of the maintenance :(. What is the best K-121 loadout being its the one I prefer? Would like to know if the one I have is the better option for that gun.


(titaniumCrouton) #7

[quote=“Amerika;68893”]The M4 will still be used in serious competitive play because of Unshakeable. It’s still, and always has been, the reason why the M4 was preferred on Fragger at high levels of play. Many people interpreted the meta shift over to the M4 as the M4 simply being a better gun. It’s not and never was. Not dying to the other teams Fragger or Nader explosions trumps the slight killing power increase the LMG offers over the M4.

It’s funny how this has worked out. High level comp teams use a Fragger with LMG. Then they figure out their Fragger doesn’t die/get gibbed when running the M4 with Unshakeable…everyone switches to that quickly. LMG is nerfed in there so everyone assumes it’s due to the LMG being awful when it was always good. Now the LMG gets buffed again but it still doesn’t change the meta much since Fragger and Nader explosives are still pretty impactful at the high end of the competitive spectrum.

Yes, some people prefer the M4. It’s a good gun and it’s a lot easier to use. So some will honestly believe that it’s the best setup because it is the best setup for them. But that’s not why the high end of the comp spectrum switched.[/quote]

Pretty much this. But if I may be so frank, that just goes to show that, imo the K-121 is going to be better for the vast majority of players if they put in the time to learn how to use the weapon and the reason I say that is simple: We’re not pros nor are we often going up against pros, thus we don’t have the same kind of playstyle constraints they have due to the sheer amount of game knowledge and ‘perfection’ they have to deal with.

In other words the things that are best in high level competitive environments are not the best things for the vast majority of pub environments, depending on the reason it’s best of course and in this case, I think the killing power of the K-121 is more than justifiable for most levels of play. Just my opinion anyway. I just hate people jump on something just because it’s popular in competitive without understanding WHY it is and seeing that it does not always apply down the drain, so to speak.


(Gi.Am) #8

K51 obviously, the only bad thing about the K121 is the reload time. So drilled is where its at. The flinch reduction is also nice considering you spend quite a bit ADSing. Cool ok can be argued against, I don’t mind it and the other two are good enough to outweight it anyways.