Found on Reddit : Dirty Bomb tier list version 2.

(Eox) #1

Thread and tier list explanation : https://www.reddit.com/r/Dirtybomb/comments/478u55/a_lengthy_explanation_wars_db_tier_list/
Tier list : http://i.imgur.com/df44UDM.jpgwe

Disclaimer : this is NOT my own tier list. \u\larknok1 takes the credit.

I have to say that I pretty much agree with most of things said. I am a bit surprised about Vassili’s position though : I really though the Heartbeat Sensor could be an extremely powerful tool, worth a use in competitive. I’d also probably move RedEye higher…

(Jostabeere) #2

Aura
lack of firepower in attack
Stopped reading there, sorry.

(watsyurdeal) #3

It’s funny to me how people put Fragger on a such a high pedestal.

He’s just good at combat, and that’s it, he’s nothing without a good medic, fire support, and engineer backing him up.

This is my problem with tier list, it creates an unrealistic expectation that you’ll win cause of x merc, when it really just comes down to team work and composition.

(SteelMailbox) #4

[quote=“Watsyurdeal;152761”]It’s funny to me how people put Fragger on a such a high pedestal.

He’s just good at combat, and that’s it, he’s nothing without a good medic, fire support, and engineer backing him up.

This is my problem with tier list, it creates an unrealistic expectation that you’ll win cause of x merc, when it really just comes down to team work and composition.[/quote]

Honestly Nader does his job better because of nade spam and I am gonna get blasted for this but Crotzni > M4 and I just hate the K121.

As for the list I gotta disagree with Proxy’s Vassili’s and Rhino’s placement.
All these mercs can easily be a game changer if the player is good (except Proxy you don’t need skill). A skilled flying bitch that is fast and has a fucking shotgun with bugged mines is somehow considered low tier because she is “situational”.

(watsyurdeal) #5

I think it’s a toss up, do you wanna bombard people or get up in their face?

Me I prefer the latter, mostly because I don’t have the time to learn all the proper bombing spots on each map.

(Amerika) #6

That list looks pretty competent to me. I think Stoker should still be moved up a tier because he’s also a better choice for a lot of situations on maps beyond just Underground and his molotov is more consistent in both kills and area denial than an airstrike is against competent players. He’s also the better option on the offensive side of EV maps for many situations.

[quote=“Jostabeere;152747”]>Aura

lack of firepower in attack
Stopped reading there, sorry.[/quote]

When you are facing people who have the reaction time and consistent aim of top tier players, 80hp and the requirement to constantly move forward instead of entrench suddenly becomes a rather huge liability for a team. The Blishlok is better now but it still doesn’t offset the fact that she doesn’t have the same punch as a Sawbonez coming at you who can take more damage while dealing as good or better damage, Phoenix for the same reasons or Sparks simply because you hang back a lot more and play much different angles with her (she gets to avoid a lot of the situations where she’d be instantly shredded). So, IMO, his point is pretty valid. Of course, once you get into a plant situation on c4 maps that heal station can be a pretty huge thing too. But it’s getting there that can be the problem.

(blonk) #7

Phoenix doesn’t particularly have a weakest map, as his main issues have to do with not having enough health, his healing ability not comboing well with Fragger, and simply being outshined by Sawbonez in almost any setting.

It reads competently, but I’m not sure I agree entirely with his sentiments on Phoenix. I can think of plenty more scenarios to take a phoenix than just to do mass heals. Being able to heal on the go without aiming a pack and without enemies potentially grabbing it, not to mention having access to the most powerful SMG has to be worth something. He can extract and recover well due to pulsing on the move, whereas if you try that with Sawbonez, a little damage and you don’t get any healing at all.

(doxjq) #8

I disagree with where he places almost everybody. Not all mercs function the same for every body. It all depends on how you play and what your strengths are. At the end of the day, it’s one mans opinion. No point arguing about it. Some will agree and some will disagree, but I think it’s not even worth discussing because everyone will find different mercs more beneficial.

(Mrarauzz) #9

@Watsyurdeal fragger is just that good tho. He is really easy to do well with. I prefer Nader but the gun selection plus the nades with good awareness of spawns just wrecks. I have the most playtime with skydad but I still think Fragger is the best merc in the game

(Amerika) #10

I hear this sentiment a lot in the fight game community. However, actual results combined with the “tech”, frame data and matchup knowledge that are known quantities it’s hard to argue with well thought out lists. Yes, they will vary somewhat and bias will influence pretty much every list. But there is some relevance in figuring out why certain mercs are preferred and these lists is a great starter for that kind of conversation. Sometimes somebody is listed low, some guy comes up with some new information that changes some key matchups and all of a sudden that character goes up or down tiers of power.

So the list itself isn’t as important as the conversation that goes into them IMO.

Also, this tier list is based on 5v5 competition with even skilled teams playing each other in common situations. Mercs change value based on map, side of map and area of map. If tiers were made for made for each map and also 5v5 competitive vs. pubbing then they would be a bit more relevant to more people…but more confusing. And the majority love simplicity :slight_smile:

(watsyurdeal) #11

Best merc at combat

There is a big distinction here

Fragger is the best guy to fuck people up, but you still need a Sawbonez/Phoneix, a Sparks, a Bushwacka/Skyhammer, and another merc to cover the rest of the team.

I feel like people overestimate Fragger’s importance, yes he can kill people, but he lacks anything else.