forgotten mercs

(BananaSlug) #1

do you guys remember the time when Fletcher was considered the worst merc in game and bushwhacker god engineer? and the without any changes people slowly started to consider fletcher as the god merc. Now you rarely see bush on pubs. And the question is why?

or skyhummer for example, everyone loved him, there were 3 ppl on every server that played skybro, but then there was stoker update and the wierdest thing is that now you dont see 3 stokers on every pub, but you just dont see skyhammer?!

and there is me thinking "What is happenin?!*

P.S. i know this thread is little pointless, just wanted to share my “observation”

(bontsa) #2

What I’ve noticed is the lack of Sawboners in anywhere except minlvl20 servers. Phoenixes, Auras (obviously), even Sparks are more common in my games unless Saw is on free rotation. He’s damn solid medic, makes me wonder haven’t most pubbers understood that or is he too “uninteresting” to play with in that field.

(SaulWolfden) #3

If it’s an consolation, Sawbonez is my go to medic when not playing Execution.

(nokiII) #4

Sawbonez is just really annoying to play as in pubs, unless you’ve at least someone with a brain on your team.

(PleasantWheat) #5

yeah i always used to run sawbones as my medic but since pheonix came out Ive had to replace him. Pheonix is just easier to use in pubs because people have this bad habit of ignoring medpacks, so being able to cram health down their throats is pretty useful

(nokiII) #6

There were changes. The biggest change was the fix to fletchers disappearing stickys. People then started to realise, that a merc with 3 100dmg pocket nukes, 2 SMGs, faster runspeed than bushwhacker and the same HP might be quite useful to have. They also buffed shotguns and blishlok alot while nerfing the turret and the KEK-10.

Overall it wasn’t a case of fletcher being good all along, but an continued fixing of bugs and buffing small things until he was good / useable.

Just like redeye. He was pretty bad in the beginning and SD kept buffing his smoke and now we’ve the stupid redeye in his smoke with a pdp meme of a game that kills most of the fun if you encounter someone somewhat decent with him.

(Weekendwarrior) #7

Ya I think the ‘coolness’ factor is the reason behind this. Admittedly its why I stopped using Skyhammer and Sawbonez myself when I was a newb.

Later after trying other mercs I find that I like them better and I seldom look back. Only Skyhammer when playing defense on Bridge

(mirthfulPicture) #8

I think pubbies dodging medpacks matrix style factor in why he is less popular than Phoenix.

(MarsRover) #9

I think pubbies dodging medpacks matrix style factor in why he is less popular than Phoenix.
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Yes. That being said, I still play him in pubs but I don’t go out of my way to waste medpacks someone who is blind and can’t see them. I throw 1 medpack their way, if I hit them that’s good, if I miss and they pick it up it’s also fine. If they don’t bother to pick one that’s 1m in front then they’re immediately relegated to the lowest priority. That’s the zen way of playing Sawbonez in pubs :slight_smile:

(Kneecap) #10

I think pubbies dodging medpacks matrix style factor in why he is less popular than Phoenix.
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As a Phoenix player, I can tell you its not all fun and games trying to heal people. Sometimes its like herding cats! They scatter like cockraches exposed to light everytime i show up to give some HP’s.

(LifeupOmega) #11

Fletcher was bad because holy fuck did his stickies bug out at least 1 in 3 times when he first came out in the beta. This ranged from them disappearing as you threw them, to blinking out of existence when the enemy swapped a weapon. It was unreliable, which is why Bushwhacker was the absolute best.

(inscrutableShow) #12

Well, I actually see more Sawbonez players than Phoenix or Sparks players. Seeing a Sparks is pretty rare for me. I agree with the OP on Stoker though, seeing a Stoker was really rare until about a month and a half ago. I’ve been playing Stoker more than Skyhammer recently, though, because I just unlocked him, and multi-killing groups of noobs with fire is bleeding addictive.

(Icecoal) #13

I wish people would forget proxy , so bad in coordinated playing but oh so annoying in pubs

(Eox) #14

I am not surprised to see that Stoker is more played than Skyhammer : his ability can be used without restriction on any map, and the molotov allow some pretty cheap kills. On pubs it’s not uncommon that you kill some low levels very easly just by tossing the molotov in his general direction. It feels like the number of people who know how to exploit the parkour system is not that high.

I rarely see Bushwhackers and Fletchers as well outside of free rotation. Proxy just dominates for whatever reason. I still don’t have a precise idea about why Proxy is so popular in pubs. I guess the “waifu factor” matters a lot. This mixed with a few opportunities for cheap kills.

The most common mercs I come across per class are Proxy, Stoker, Nader, Vassili and Aura. There’s probably a reason.

(Dysfnal) #15

Aimee is the latest forgotten merc… Thanks Vassili quickeye ;-;

(Sithas) #16

[quote=“Eox;185968”]I am not surprised to see that Stoker is more played than Skyhammer : his ability can be used without restriction on any map, and the molotov allow some pretty cheap kills. On pubs it’s not uncommon that you kill some low levels very easly just by tossing the molotov in his general direction. It feels like the number of people who know how to exploit the parkour system is not that high.

I rarely see Bushwhackers and Fletchers as well outside of free rotation. Proxy just dominates for whatever reason. I still don’t have a precise idea about why Proxy is so popular in pubs. I guess the “waifu factor” matters a lot. This mixed with a few opportunities for cheap kills.

The most common mercs I come across per class are Proxy, Stoker, Nader, Vassili and Aura. There’s probably a reason.[/quote]
Few? (shotgun) proxy is the very definition of cheap. 1 hit kill mines+no skill-needed shotgun is the holy grail for the average new player.

(BananaSlug) #17

for me that snitch thingy isnt worth moa, 20 hp and mp400, also heartbeat sensor seems to be more practical to me
also mo11 dosent have quick eye :stuck_out_tongue:

(Dysfnal) #18

@BananaSlug but I played Aimee specifically for quickeye, I still like f82 more than Vassili’s MOA quickeye card, but still

(Apofenas) #19

Probably for same reason as Vassili - she costs 30k, other engineers - 50k.

(SirSwag) #20

Speaking of forgotten mercs, does anyone remember Sparks?