been away 4some time, very interesting thread. sad that that list “had to” be taken down. btw original patch would/could’ve been a good idea.
and an off [long, nothing to do with the patch or the fake-pb-on, dont read unless giving a crap about 55v6b]:
[QUOTE=<Your>Father<CZ>;198914][digest-edited quote]
Lets talk about WHY.
possible reasons why playing v2.55:
- don’t know about newer version.
- don’t know almost anything about 2.60 and 2.60b features and fixes.
- want to use cheats or abuse/exploit bugs.
Somebody can say „I enjoy 2.55 more than 2.60b.“. This is result of 1), 2) or 3) only.
If you think there are different reasons why PLAYERS like 2.55 let me know.
If we are talking about 2.55 admins there is an extra reason why there are 2.55 servers: 2.55 admins are afraid of losing their players if they update their servers.
Statement „ 2.6b is nearly as buggy as 2.55“ is very far way off truth.
My conclusion is: 2.55 servers are filled with players and they are not upgraded to 2.60b due to:
I. „not knowing“ players
II. cheaters and bug abusers
III. administrators fears of losing their players if they update game[/QUOTE]
i could have a few remarks on that. 1, i think this (the first) list is seriously at fault. 1b, i think the server admin reason should be added as a 4) to the first list, even if in brackets to separate them from the 1st 3, for the sake of honesty; instead of hiding it somewhere midtext. the list is very definitely worded and visible, the admin thing is missing badly from there despite that that section is supposedly about players, as it is an important factor in thw whole issue. 1c, i think one important reason also, as an 5), players who know about 26b, know whats changed and actually like it, never ever cheated and they dont (can’t) move because of their fellow players, or irregulars, or, even some part of their regulars wouldnt move on. that is they’d lose their community. its a different reason from the server admin thing u mention, its a player’s decision, and it is noticeable on such scenarios when the community has both an 55 and 26b server.
i think that first triple list is either shows the poster really cant, or dont want, to understand (use his fantasy) why some ppl wanna use 55, and/or is very misleading and dont paints the situation correctly.
- is an entirely valid, resonable, and sadly, (because of outside factors out of control) prevalent reason for why r there ppl out there sticking with 55.
about that nearly-as-buggy thing i agree, even if its true, it is misleading as 26b should be wieved with pro and luas. and with those, sy in some other thread remarked, its nearly perfect and finished.
and to that conclusion, there should be as an III/b. if not IV.: “administrators losing their players if they update game”;
which is a distinct from III., and FACTUAL[, and sad] reason.
and the surprising misc. detail about this is, that on one server i know(n–havent plaed et 4a while), these players were mostly experienced and skilled ones, not having technical or any other issues, yet in practical life no matter what measures done by admins, players simply didnt turn on on the 6b server to make it viable.
and a note - this is not a defence of 55 or anything like that [i’m omnivorous w. patch selector and 'd love if nearly all servers 'd be of 60b] but simply a trial to refute a, for me seemingly faulty typical 60b-er(*) attack on an 55-er asking for understanding.
*:lack of (or faulty) insight into 55-er scene, overzealous attack of 55-ers. actually it states everybody who is not a noob is there coz he or she’s a cheater or condoning cheaters.
