Fire Support Mercs Health and Speed - Too Similar?

(ProfPlump) #1

Am I the only one who is a little tired of the fact that Arty, Skyhammer and now Stoker all have the exact same Speed and Health (120 health, 400 speed)? It just seems to lack variety… Obviously Kira is the only fire support with a different, let’s call them, “body stats” at 90 health and 450 speed, but surely it’s a bit odd to keep three mercs of the same role to be exactly the same, especially when their guns are almost identical across those mercs - the only big difference is the ability.

So yeah, if Arty could get 130 health and 390 speed, if Stoker could have 110 health and 410 speed… Just something like that so that they’re not all the same.

I know this isn’t hugely important, but I would personally like to see things changed to give a bit more variety to the fire support mercs, since they already share all the same guns and secondary abilities…

(Amerika) #2

I was surprised when Stoker hit and he was 120hp/400 speed. I actually thought he’d have 100/110 HP. When running the M4 with drilled he is basically Skyhammer with a molotov. Seems rather odd to me they kept them all very similar while keeping Kira fairly fragile.

(JJMAJR) #3

The fire support mercs are way too similar. The only major difference is that Kira has a pussy boobs (small ones) and therefore she gets less hitpoints than the males in her group. Ridiculous.

All fire support mercs use assault rifles. If Stoker used a shotgun, or if Arty used bolt and semi automatic sniper rifles we would have much more class diversity if someone wants to give candy ammo to kids in a van your friendlies comrades.

I know it’s harsh words, but this is quite a pity. The only health point change that is on these mercs is made just because said merc is a girl. I mean, Stoker with 90 HP is much more logical. An old body is a frail one. I am going to stop now before I devolve into coy jokes.

Oh, well I guess it’s too late. Wait, I can edit my post…
Naw it’s funnier this way.

(CCP115) #4

Give Arty more health.

Give Stoker less health.

Don’t change their speeds. Did I do it right?

I feel as if Arty doesn’t last long enough to do damn near anything, while Stoker, which I haven’t played, seems incredibly strong anyway and could use a small 10 hp nerf.

(Mrarauzz) #5

[quote=“CCP115;103831”]Give Arty more health.

Give Stoker less health.

Don’t change their speeds. Did I do it right?

I feel as if Arty doesn’t last long enough to do damn near anything, while Stoker, which I haven’t played, seems incredibly strong anyway and could use a small 10 hp nerf.[/quote]

you have to mess with speed because it may seem small but i think it matters a lot. I mean before the burst rifle nerf i liked Kira because her speed was amazing with the laser and just out juking opponents, but i knew that health was pretty low so it made me play “smarter”

(Tanker_Ray) #6

Well, DB does have male/female character HP and speed stats in contrast. I think Kira is absolutely fine.

Other merc classes do have two mercs with same stats, like Aura and Sparks, or just 10hp difference like Vassili, Phantom or, 10 movement speed difference with same HP, Bush and Fletcher.

I guess Skyhammer, Arty, Stoker those are only ‘three’ guys that have all the same stats in the same class, thus it makes people feel like they have no characteristics.

But I those 10hp or 10 movement speed will be huge. I mean, Fire supports classes are used to be 10hp tanky than Recon or Specialists right? I don’t think reducing HP would be a good idea, but movement speed.

Imo, placing Fire Support class between Assault and other bit-squishy merc class(except medic) will be the best, making slight difference between fire supports, with slight difference of 10 also.

like, Stoker remains 120/400 for CQB, and Skyhammer, Arty gets 10hp more and 10 movement speed reduced. I think this is better. Kira is fine with her HP, unless her 450 speed is missing. (Actually, All female mercs have 450 or 470 speed, so Kira herself isn’t that special anyway.)

(ProfPlump) #7

[quote=“CCP115;103831”]Give Arty more health.

Give Stoker less health.

Don’t change their speeds. Did I do it right?

I feel as if Arty doesn’t last long enough to do damn near anything, while Stoker, which I haven’t played, seems incredibly strong anyway and could use a small 10 hp nerf.[/quote]

Didn’t think of that… You might be onto something there…

(ProfPlump) #8

[quote=“ThunderPro;103912”]Well, DB does have male/female character HP and speed stats in contrast. I think Kira is absolutely fine.

Other merc classes do have two mercs with same stats, like Aura and Sparks, or just 10hp difference like Vassili, Phantom or, 10 movement speed difference with same HP, Bush and Fletcher.

I guess Skyhammer, Arty, Stoker those are only ‘three’ guys that have all the same stats in the same class, thus it makes people feel like they have no characteristics.

But I those 10hp or 10 movement speed will be huge. I mean, Fire supports classes are used to be 10hp tanky than Recon or Specialists right? I don’t think reducing HP would be a good idea, but movement speed.

Imo, placing Fire Support class between Assault and other bit-squishy merc class(except medic) will be the best, making slight difference between fire supports, with slight difference of 10 also.

like, Stoker remains 120/400 for CQB, and Skyhammer, Arty gets 10hp more and 10 movement speed reduced. I think this is better. Kira is fine with her HP, unless her 450 speed is missing. (Actually, All female mercs have 450 or 470 speed, so Kira herself isn’t that special anyway.)[/quote]

You’re forgetting about Nader. =P

(BloodyGustav) #9

Yeah it’s about fermale/male not about speed/hp…facepalm

But i agree that the support mercs are to similar, atleast the viable ones atm.

Kira was the only one that didn’t make you feel like playing COD, were everyone has the same guns/speed/hp with the only difference what perks you pick.

Shame she is now garbage just like Arty -.-

(ProfPlump) #10

[quote=“BloodyGustav;104052”]Yeah it’s about fermale/male not about speed/hp…facepalm

But i agree that the support mercs are to similar, atleast the viable ones atm.

Kira was the only one that didn’t make you feel like playing COD, were everyone has the same guns/speed/hp with the only difference what perks you pick.

Shame she is now garbage just like Arty -.-[/quote]

Let’s not stray from the topic of health and speed here - there are already enough discussions posting about how shit the new burst fire rifles are =P