Fine Tuning Update - Feb 2016

(MarsRover) #21

It’s written on the first one : stats taken from high leveled stopwatch and ranked games[/quote]

Does it say anything about merc rotation or server sizes?

(SiegeFace) #22

Guys, lets see how it plays out first before making any rash…

you buffed Vasilis health…

…wai?

But seriously, download the update, wait for servers to come online, play some, see how these changes actually handle and then we can proceed to discuss…

All I can see from the comments thus far is this

Edit: Looking forward to trying redeye with grandeur and pdp, vasilli with mp, sparks with…well…everything, Kira with driess and more importantly mai stark

(Firefly) #23

“PDP-70 SR
Increased magazine size to 11 rounds (from 10)
Increased recoil by ~15%”

just lol. who decided that the PDP needed 1 more bullet.
where are the ROF changes? the damage changes?
Since you stomped Sparks into the ground with nerfs you might as well finish the whole deal by bashing PDP redeye’s head in.

Then i wouldnt mind the “add recoil to nerf most used guns” thing that these developers like to do. You’re not nerfing the burst rifles with recoil, youre making them more bullshit. same with the PDP.

also who thought kira needed a nerf? how about you touch fletcher before you touch kira. since kira actually takes quite a bit of skill and felther not so much.

P.S. vaseline skill ceiling is dropping like one of those traps from Tom Raider. good job on that.

(p4v) #24

@GawdZerrah You still perceive those guns as SMGs. They should never be at that level. Don’t look at Tolen/MP400/Empire as something that wins you duels single-handedly. Sparks is a long range merc and she should be at disadvantage in close combat just like snipers. So far she had a sniper weapon and SMG9-like weapon in her arsenal. That’s not balanced in my book.

You defend yourself by damaging an opponent with Revivr and finishing him off with Tolen. You miss and only hit with Tolen but run out of bullets? Guess what. You have another pistol that you never used before or run away and heal yourself since you are a speedster and a medic in one person.

However, I disagree with “revive health now gradually reduces over distance”. That should be her main asset and her reviving skills should be untouched.

(sentimentalFork) #25

So shotguns are still retarded OP, ok. lets just nerf all the guns that take skill to kill people and leave the skilless shotguns alone that dont require head shots to kill. Nice, seems like a win to me, lol.

(Eox) #26

Some good changes overall. However some choices are very questionable.

  • Why was Kira’s movement speed nerfed ? Nobody complained about her if I remember correctly.
  • Following the SMG chart, the SMG-9 is the weakest SMG. Why didn’t it got a buff ?
  • The conc grenade buff does not seem that good and is probably not the good way to follow in order to make Thunder more appealing. The MK46 buff is very good though.

There’s also Sparks’s case. Machine pistol nerf + quick charge nerf + REVIVR falloff applied to healing feels harsh. It’s way too early to state that though.

(Litego) #27

A lot of these changes were uncalled for. Why are you guys balancing based on the average stats of the entire community?! That is fucking stupid! Balance around the top players, remove the scrubs from the equation!

(SiegeFace) #28

Might want to take a second look… here lemme help.

(Amerika) #29

@Smooth @stayfreshshoe When you guys collect the gun stats are you chopping off at least the top 10% and also the bottom 10% before compiling them to view for changes?

(NexDroid) #30

[quote=“p4v;148223”]@GawdZerrah You still perceive those guns as SMGs. They should never be at that level. Don’t look at Tolen/MP400/Empire as something that wins you duels single-handedly. Sparks is a long range merc and she should be at disadvantage in close combat just like snipers. So far she had a sniper weapon and SMG9-like weapon in her arsenal. That’s not balanced in my book.

You defend yourself by damaging an opponent with Revivr and finishing him off with Tolen. You miss and only hit with Tolen but run out of bullets? Guess what. You have another pistol that you never used before or run away and heal yourself since you are a speedster and a medic in one person.

However, I disagree with “revive health now gradually reduces over distance”. That should be her main asset and her reviving skills should be untouched.[/quote]

She used to be long range. Now she cant go too far away, or she will revive with 0,0000001 (ok maybe a little bit more), so now she is meant as short range medic, who cant portect itself, with no primary weapon (as mentioned before, they wanted to make machine pistols to same level as pistols) and no healing potencial. Sparks cant be used to heal rhino, because she run too fast out of med packs. Now Revivr is more like bad joke than anything usefull. I dont know why they “tune” something what isnt broken. What about focus on ammo box bug, when you get stuck if you jump on it? Or what about doing something about Bridge so attackers have some chance to win in balanced game? Or what about fixing that damned reload bug, when you finish reload animation with empty magazine? Or what about nerfing fletcher? Or what about nerfing rhino so he cant protect coridor on his own? Or what about some optimalization for low end pcs (well I dont personally have problem with FPS)? What about doing some events to keep old players in game?

In past half year when ive been playing DB there were only few changes. Few more mercs, two maps, dumb game mode, that no one actually likes, and alot, I mean alot of fune tunings, which usually made things worse.

(dnbradio) #31

† RIP

(opicr0n) #32

“Have a nice day” © Splash Damage - post MEGA NERF 2016

but seriously lets see how this turns out :wink:

(Cryoni) #33

Am I the only one that appreciates the hochfir buffs? Is this like the fourth time they buffed it in a row? HOCHFIR PROXY IS BEST PROXY!

(Litego) #34

Yeah, I see nothing wrong with buffing the best SMG in the game…

(pinkOrchid) #35

nice changes here and there. But still no rework of phantom.

(Dieu-Sama) #36

And everybody of course noticed that Rhino is on top Effectiveness B)

On Ranked AND HIGH LEVELED Stopwatch games

Rhino <3

(Reddeadcap) #37

I was hoping for mouse control loss to be reintroduced to Thunder’s conc grenades and that the inconsistent flashbang effect would be trashed.

:frowning: I’m really wondering who the people in SD are listening for some of these.

(Haki) #38

I wonder how many consecutive buffs the Dreiss and Hochfir can get before people start playing them :'D

(triteCherry) #39

After seeing what they did to Stoker I’m starting to think as Nader I should stop going for direct hits so they won’t be nerfed, but if I don’t go for direct hits I won’t get the benefit from doing direct hits… I shall limit myself perhaps 2 1 direct hit per game. Going to be a challenge since they decreased the inner radius by half. I see what you did there SD, I accept the Nader Challenge.

(opicr0n) #40

[quote=“Redcap;148255”]I was hoping for mouse control loss to be reintroduced to Thunder’s conc grenades and that the inconsistent flashbang effect would be trashed.

:frowning: I’m really wondering who the people in SD are listening for some of these.[/quote]

Mouse movement should never be influenced imo