Stay cool with the trigger. As someone said “Take your time, aim for the forehead, it will fall on the floor otherwise”.
After a 15 min first look, I really can’t see why OP is asking for a speed nerf. The ads-forcing nature of his main weapons (except dreiss) generates a strong weakness in low to medium ranges. If you miss 2 out of your 3 first bullets, you’re generally toasted.[/quote]
Basically this, the IR goggles assist in helping you place your shots at least.
Incoming Max ammo nuke to all Merc’s… just like with melee, X character can do this so just nerf everyone yay…
[quote=“K1X455;15855”]His movement speed is too fast for game balance. He should be just a tad ahead of Rhino’s movement speed so he can’t outrun anyone while he’s being chased in his own smoke.
Further, he should be given less ammunition capacity so he can’t be trigger happy with a two HS kill. That’ll make him dependent on Arty, Kira or SkyHammer
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That gun have already low ammo and it’s fuggin hard to use already, don’t see why it should get nerfed. I don’t like either that or the dreiss, so it’s either the pdp or i’ll drop redeye…
After trying him, I can clearly say that we won’t dominate easly. He’s for sure a very high skill cap merc, and does not need a speed nerf in any way, ever.
His smoke screen is not that hard to fight against if you have the good tools, his weapons requires top notch aiming abilities to really work.
Remove him. That smoke is TERRIBLE!. Had one on my team that I just ended up kicking, couldn’t see crap; and will continue to kick every redeye I see!
I’d rather be able to see the enemy and rely on my own personal skill to shoot them in the head before they shoot me, then have to rely on a gimmick smoke cloud that only serves to annoy the heck out of me.
If the entire team could see the red markers the way redeye does, great, but as it stands, the smoke cloud hampers my ability to play effectively.
[quote=“Dr_Fumbles;62388”]Remove him. That smoke is TERRIBLE!. Had one on my team that I just ended up kicking, couldn’t see crap; and will continue to kick every redeye I see!
I’d rather be able to see the enemy and rely on my own personal skill to shoot them in the head before they shoot me, then have to rely on a gimmick smoke cloud that only serves to annoy the heck out of me.
If the entire team could see the red markers the way redeye does, great, but as it stands, the smoke cloud hampers my ability to play effectively.[/quote]
On behalf of all the people who feel this way but are perhaps too kind to say it, I will be that guy.
You’re bad. You should feel bad, about being bad. What you’ve said here could be displayed as a prime example of what stupidity looks like if given physical form and the people who have dared read this post are now at least 5 IQ points lower for having read it at all and myself 10 for responding.
Nothing you said meshes with reality or has about it even the air of an intelligent and rational thought. The sheer amount of bad that exudes from this post could and honestly should be worshiped as perhaps the ideal form of what not to be because in the end, lets be honest. You are the guy on Ninja Gaiden that gets the special pink bowed easy mode.
Because, you sir…are bad.
That is all.
Mods, I’ll take my lashing now. It was worth it.
[quote=“titaniumCrouton;62392”]
On behalf of all the people who feel this way but are perhaps too kind to say it, I will be that guy.
You’re bad. You should feel bad, about being bad. What you’ve said here could be displayed as a prime example of what stupidity looks like if given physical form and the people who have dared read this post are now at least 5 IQ points lower for having read it at all and myself 10 for responding.
Nothing you said meshes with reality or has about it even the air of an intelligent and rational thought. The sheer amount of bad that exudes from this post could and honestly should be worshiped as perhaps the ideal form of what not to be because in the end, lets be honest. You are the guy on Ninja Gaiden that gets the special pink bowed easy mode.
Because, you sir…are bad.
That is all.
Mods, I’ll take my lashing now. It was worth it.[/quote]
I gave you as many positive votes as I could. Well said.
[quote=“favoriteKnife;62512”][quote=“titaniumCrouton;62392”]
On behalf of all the people who feel this way but are perhaps too kind to say it, I will be that guy.
You’re bad. You should feel bad, about being bad. What you’ve said here could be displayed as a prime example of what stupidity looks like if given physical form and the people who have dared read this post are now at least 5 IQ points lower for having read it at all and myself 10 for responding.
Nothing you said meshes with reality or has about it even the air of an intelligent and rational thought. The sheer amount of bad that exudes from this post could and honestly should be worshiped as perhaps the ideal form of what not to be because in the end, lets be honest. You are the guy on Ninja Gaiden that gets the special pink bowed easy mode.
Because, you sir…are bad.
That is all.
Mods, I’ll take my lashing now. It was worth it.[/quote]
I gave you as many positive votes as I could. Well said.
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Thank you. I’m glad someone appreciates the work.
Problem with Redeye’s smoke is that he’s the only one who can see through it. Even the team’s vision get clouded in smoke
Yes, and he’s the only one who gets to shoot. Clever, isn’t it?
I’m in the minority of those who purchased him early on and not defend the “he’s alright” bandwagon.
I think that’s why he can spot enemies for his team
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The diamond is only so useful when it comes to actually hitting people. If you’re using a full auto gun, fine, but when I use the Dreiss, smoke is just real annoying.
I’m fairly satisfied with Red-Eye, I just wish his augments were a bit more interesting. Pineapple Juggler and Try Hard to name a few, I’d love to see those go away.
As for Red-Eye himself, I like his general playstyle in the game, suits me quite nice. He’s definetly a strong merc and I predict that he can become a bit stompy in pubs but on the other hand he requires quite the skill for it to happen. A misplaced smoke is considerably damaging for the friendly team and while his rifle is powerful, it’s not easy to use.
I’ve seen my fair share of Red-Eyes that have failed miserably and some that have done exceptionally well and that’s where I base my thoughts on really.
Someone mentioned it before, but Red-Eye is kind of like a double-edged sword. He can be either a great ally to your team, or an enemy on your team.
[quote=“titaniumCrouton;62392”][quote=“Dr_Fumbles;62388”]Remove him. That smoke is TERRIBLE!. Had one on my team that I just ended up kicking, couldn’t see crap; and will continue to kick every redeye I see!
I’d rather be able to see the enemy and rely on my own personal skill to shoot them in the head before they shoot me, then have to rely on a gimmick smoke cloud that only serves to annoy the heck out of me.
If the entire team could see the red markers the way redeye does, great, but as it stands, the smoke cloud hampers my ability to play effectively.[/quote]
On behalf of all the people who feel this way but are perhaps too kind to say it, I will be that guy.
You’re bad. You should feel bad, about being bad. What you’ve said here could be displayed as a prime example of what stupidity looks like if given physical form and the people who have dared read this post are now at least 5 IQ points lower for having read it at all and myself 10 for responding.
Nothing you said meshes with reality or has about it even the air of an intelligent and rational thought. The sheer amount of bad that exudes from this post could and honestly should be worshiped as perhaps the ideal form of what not to be because in the end, lets be honest. You are the guy on Ninja Gaiden that gets the special pink bowed easy mode.
Because, you sir…are bad.
That is all.
Mods, I’ll take my lashing now. It was worth it.[/quote]
I’m sorry you lost those 10 IQ points, seems like it really hit you hard; because from your post, I don’t think you had much to begin with.
Allow me to elaborate on my previous post:
For starters, I have a great deal of skill playing FPS games. Even with a broken hand I still out play 90% of the people in matches, putting up on average +2-3 KDR, and get called “hacker” quite often (to which I thank them, tell them feel free to report me and continue on).
Now, I only offer the above as a qualifying statement, not as a brag; just to prove my point that I have no doubt in my own ability to effectively protect myself, my team and my objective with my own skill. Combine skill with good communication and teamwork and the majority of the time, it’s a win. Sometimes you just get out played =)
My problem with this useless waste of space that you’re all nerdgasming over is the fact that:
most players have no idea how to use him effectively. Which only hampers your own team, effectively helping the enemy.
the few that do know how to use him effectively are further cut in half, because the vast majority of these don’t have a mic, and thus can’t communicate where the targets are, and if the redeye dies, we have no idea who is in the cloud. Placed on an objective, it’s free cover for someone to slip in and plant / disarm and GG.
Those are my two major gripes with the merc.
So, in both of those cases you are left either:
None of those options are good imho.
As I said previously, I have no issues relying on my own skill to kill any other merc in the game. I don’t need to rely on a smoke nade gimmick most often used by players that have no idea how to play let alone communicate.
Now, all that being said, does it have zero use?; Sure, I can probably concede that in some high level play with good communication and coordination it could have some use, but honestly, given other options, I’d still take just about anyone else over this guy any day of the week.
Cheers.
[quote=“Dr_Fumbles;62946”][quote=“titaniumCrouton;62392”][quote=“Dr_Fumbles;62388”]Remove him. That smoke is TERRIBLE!. Had one on my team that I just ended up kicking, couldn’t see crap; and will continue to kick every redeye I see!
I’d rather be able to see the enemy and rely on my own personal skill to shoot them in the head before they shoot me, then have to rely on a gimmick smoke cloud that only serves to annoy the heck out of me.
If the entire team could see the red markers the way redeye does, great, but as it stands, the smoke cloud hampers my ability to play effectively.[/quote]
On behalf of all the people who feel this way but are perhaps too kind to say it, I will be that guy.
You’re bad. You should feel bad, about being bad. What you’ve said here could be displayed as a prime example of what stupidity looks like if given physical form and the people who have dared read this post are now at least 5 IQ points lower for having read it at all and myself 10 for responding.
Nothing you said meshes with reality or has about it even the air of an intelligent and rational thought. The sheer amount of bad that exudes from this post could and honestly should be worshiped as perhaps the ideal form of what not to be because in the end, lets be honest. You are the guy on Ninja Gaiden that gets the special pink bowed easy mode.
Because, you sir…are bad.
That is all.
Mods, I’ll take my lashing now. It was worth it.[/quote]
I’m sorry you lost those 10 IQ points, seems like it really hit you hard; because from your post, I don’t think you had much to begin with.
Allow me to elaborate on my previous post:
For starters, I have a great deal of skill playing FPS games. Even with a broken hand I still out play 90% of the people in matches, putting up on average +2-3 KDR, and get called “hacker” quite often (to which I thank them, tell them feel free to report me and continue on).
Now, I only offer the above as a qualifying statement, not as a brag; just to prove my point that I have no doubt in my own ability to effectively protect myself, my team and my objective with my own skill. Combine skill with good communication and teamwork and the majority of the time, it’s a win. Sometimes you just get out played =)
My problem with this useless waste of space that you’re all nerdgasming over is the fact that:
most players have no idea how to use him effectively. Which only hampers your own team, effectively helping the enemy.
the few that do know how to use him effectively are further cut in half, because the vast majority of these don’t have a mic, and thus can’t communicate where the targets are, and if the redeye dies, we have no idea who is in the cloud. Placed on an objective, it’s free cover for someone to slip in and plant / disarm and GG.
Those are my two major gripes with the merc.
So, in both of those cases you are left either:
None of those options are good imho.
As I said previously, I have no issues relying on my own skill to kill any other merc in the game. I don’t need to rely on a smoke nade gimmick most often used by players that have no idea how to play let alone communicate.
Now, all that being said, does it have zero use?; Sure, I can probably concede that in some high level play with good communication and coordination it could have some use, but honestly, given other options, I’d still take just about anyone else over this guy any day of the week.
Cheers.[/quote]
TL;DR
-Bad players make me angry, grrrrr. I can carry the team you stinking plebs.
-That darn spotting is just too darn bad and it doesnt spot the people the redeye spots so how am I supposed to see the people that the redeye just spotted, grrrrr. BUG ALERT If Redeye dies with his IR on, the people who have been spotted stay spotted until killed. Unless you are phantom, then just cloak in/out and it wipes it.
You know, in your defense, you are right how that smoke provides great cover for a plant or disarm. I mean, I love sniping peeps in the face through the smoke as they sit there and plant/disarm. Its my fav <3!
[quote=“K1X455;15855”]His movement speed is too fast for game balance. He should be just a tad ahead of Rhino’s movement speed so he can’t outrun anyone while he’s being chased in his own smoke.
Further, he should be given less ammunition capacity so he can’t be trigger happy with a two HS kill. That’ll make him dependent on Arty, Kira or SkyHammer
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Ummm…What?..His movment speed is too fast? You do realize this guy is hard to use as it is. With his Grandeur, you have to be iron-sighted cause it’s hard to hit anything otherwise. You make no sense…
I’m not even going to touch the subject about ammunition. Clearly you don’t have Red Eye, you just got rekt by him…
[quote=“Dr_Fumbles;62946”][quote=“titaniumCrouton;62392”][quote=“Dr_Fumbles;62388”]Remove him. That smoke is TERRIBLE!. Had one on my team that I just ended up kicking, couldn’t see crap; and will continue to kick every redeye I see!
I’d rather be able to see the enemy and rely on my own personal skill to shoot them in the head before they shoot me, then have to rely on a gimmick smoke cloud that only serves to annoy the heck out of me.
If the entire team could see the red markers the way redeye does, great, but as it stands, the smoke cloud hampers my ability to play effectively.[/quote]
On behalf of all the people who feel this way but are perhaps too kind to say it, I will be that guy.
You’re bad. You should feel bad, about being bad. What you’ve said here could be displayed as a prime example of what stupidity looks like if given physical form and the people who have dared read this post are now at least 5 IQ points lower for having read it at all and myself 10 for responding.
Nothing you said meshes with reality or has about it even the air of an intelligent and rational thought. The sheer amount of bad that exudes from this post could and honestly should be worshiped as perhaps the ideal form of what not to be because in the end, lets be honest. You are the guy on Ninja Gaiden that gets the special pink bowed easy mode.
Because, you sir…are bad.
That is all.
Mods, I’ll take my lashing now. It was worth it.[/quote]
I’m sorry you lost those 10 IQ points, seems like it really hit you hard; because from your post, I don’t think you had much to begin with.
Allow me to elaborate on my previous post:
For starters, I have a great deal of skill playing FPS games. Even with a broken hand I still out play 90% of the people in matches, putting up on average +2-3 KDR, and get called “hacker” quite often (to which I thank them, tell them feel free to report me and continue on).
Now, I only offer the above as a qualifying statement, not as a brag; just to prove my point that I have no doubt in my own ability to effectively protect myself, my team and my objective with my own skill. Combine skill with good communication and teamwork and the majority of the time, it’s a win. Sometimes you just get out played =)
My problem with this useless waste of space that you’re all nerdgasming over is the fact that:
most players have no idea how to use him effectively. Which only hampers your own team, effectively helping the enemy.
the few that do know how to use him effectively are further cut in half, because the vast majority of these don’t have a mic, and thus can’t communicate where the targets are, and if the redeye dies, we have no idea who is in the cloud. Placed on an objective, it’s free cover for someone to slip in and plant / disarm and GG.
Those are my two major gripes with the merc.
So, in both of those cases you are left either:
None of those options are good imho.
As I said previously, I have no issues relying on my own skill to kill any other merc in the game. I don’t need to rely on a smoke nade gimmick most often used by players that have no idea how to play let alone communicate.
Now, all that being said, does it have zero use?; Sure, I can probably concede that in some high level play with good communication and coordination it could have some use, but honestly, given other options, I’d still take just about anyone else over this guy any day of the week.
Cheers.[/quote]
Bold part: and with the same amount of provable authority, I say I am better than you, thus everything you say is invalid from here on out. I only say this as a qualifying statement, not to brag of course.
Point A: Clearly, you don’t know what you’re doing either. The irony.
Point B: You don’t need a mic to talk even more so in a game which has such a terrible voice system in the first place to the point most people simply mute everyone at the start. Furthermore the smoke doesn’t last much longer than the duration of his IR so unless he some magical way isn’t spotting people or you have trouble following the red diamonds, this is rarely an issue.
Even beyond that, why would he be covering the objective in the first place from a defense stand point? I thought we were talking about GOOD Redeye players. Reference point A.
Point C: A good 'ol sticky bomb works so do Nader nades. Please, don’t act like you don’t have options that are also rapidly replenishing. Getting rid of smoke is a piece of cake. Also instead of wasting airstrikes to clear the smoke cause you’re afraid you can’t see something for a few seconds, why not hold onto it and use it after the red eye can’t see through the smoke anymore to act as cover fire for the objective for those last few seconds? Really, you’re answering your own gripes.
Point D: Well you could do that if you have no other option, they’re doing it too so your on even ground, so what is your complaint again? You don’t have an inherent advantage that Redeye gave you in the first place? You’re welcome. But fend for yourself.
Point E: This would be a logical choice, since it doesn’t last that long, so once more what the fuck is your problem again?
You have plenty of options and the options you listed are fine. Based off your two post I doubt you have any actual skill. Hell, I question the claim you could shoot straight at this point. The most basic complaint you have when boiled down to it is “Bad players are bad and it annoys me but it’s kay, cause I’m so good I can carry” to which I would then ask, why are you here again if any of that was true?
Furthermore the smoke has plenty of uses as you’ve just admitted and it doesn’t take any place near as much coordination as you’re pretending it needs, it just takes some common sense and the ability to look at a situation and come up with a logical conclusion. It’s like you have no actual problem solving skills when you’re in game or something. It’s sad. Also why wouldn’t you take him into competitive, even after admitting his smoke (and spotting) are extremely useful “With communication?”
He single handedly can control the reactions and actions of an entire enemy team with a single button press for a few seconds. Even if that makes them stop and have to clear said smoke those few seconds can give you just enough time you need. You’re starburst, you’re flipfloppity and your arguments make no damn sense when you break it down.
So, allow me to reinstate my former point. You’re bad. You should feel bad about being bad. Now go home before you get yourself hurt. O_o leave the discussion to people who can form an argument beyond “Bad people suck.”
Edit/TL:DR:
[spoiler]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0 [/spoiler]
IR does not last long enough, even when flicking.
Smoke radius is to small and again 5 seconds to short.
SMG still out power any of his guns at short, medium and medium to long.
So in effect he is pretty useless.
His kit is all about strategy, not killing power. Does blinding the enemy provide an advantage that hopefully yields a kill? Yes. But it takes much more finesse than a character like Nader, or Fragger.
Honestly, I’ve enjoyed playing RedEye, but I must say, he’s not that fantastic. His unique powers have too little of an up-time to really define his play-style, and what you’re left with is a character with a loadout that puts him at a disadvantage in close-medium range, and middle of the road long-ranged stopping power.
The GSR is a finesse weapon. It’s only truly effective when in the hands of a marksman. Most players will struggle with it. I like that about it. But weigh that in to his overall kit, and you can see why a nerf isn’t a good idea.
They wanna make a character that’s approachable by all players, not just the top-end skullpoppers.
You put RedEye in the hands of the average player, and I think he’ll probably come out in the bottom tier.
In the hands of a really skilled FPS player, he’ll do well.
So, IMO: This was a successful release for a merc.
The ONLY suggestions I have is a small one: His secondary weapon. Consider an auto-pistol to give him some better close-range options. Right now his pistols are all just worse versions of his primary. You’d rarely use them unless your primary is out of ammo. I personally like to have options, and being rewarded for choosing the right tool for the job. Right now, it doesn’t feel like RedEye’s secondaries provide anything but a weak closer to an ammo-intensive encounter.