EZ fix for any part of Jav that is OP

[watsyurdeal]

@neverplayseriou said:
@bgyoshi overkill damage on a 140 hp fragger… that’s an insta gib…

Only on direct hit, which does not mean if any part of the explosion hits you you are gibbed. That’s factually incorrect.

[bgyoshi]

@neverplayseriou said:
@bgyoshi overkill damage on a 140 hp fragger… that’s an insta gib…

I honestly can’t imagine inner radius for max damage output is larger than a Fragger nade at most. Functionally speaking, the rocket seems to literally be a Fragger nade coded to fire from a rocket launcher and possibly be guided. It gets 2x more cool down for that ability, making it strictly worse than Fragger nades that are far more easily maneuvered, harder to dodge, can’t be blown up in the air, bounce off walls, and thrown from complete safety every 15 seconds.

[Flacke1]

tip: if you see a javelin with the rocket launcher, shoot the launcher

[Homu1124]

Yup, the missile can be destroyed if you spray fire at her. I’d say that it is wonky though as you spray her at times but when she shoots downward at your feet it usually can’t get destroyed. Also, I have gibbed a full health rhino with my rocket so I’d say it has some intense damage.

[Szakalot]

@bgyoshi dont know what to tell you, there is instagib.

just like @Homu1124 indicated, i got instagibbed from full HP as rhino with unshakeable.

either that, or there is extra damage for directs akin to fletcher stickies, result is the same, any merc will disappear when directly hit.

@CodeAlpha you might have more success making general claims about other people if you read what they write

[Gire]

@bgyoshi So… what is your point? You GET instagibbed unless you are “far” away from it.

And saying Fraggers nade is more powerful depends only from situation when you can corner nade, but Jav can also so that with guided…

[Gire]

@Homu1124 Ya, thats that. Instagibbing Rhino that just tells how much overkill dmg its has.

[CodeAlpha]

@Szakalot said:
@bgyoshi dont know what to tell you, there is instagib.

just like @Homu1124 indicated, i got instagibbed from full HP as rhino with unshakeable.

either that, or there is extra damage for directs akin to fletcher stickies, result is the same, any merc will disappear when directly hit.

@CodeAlpha you might have more success making general claims about other people if you read what they write

No where does he state anything about giving her a designated area of placement. He stated a circle thing as in the circle that indicates the time it takes to activate the ability. The circle that represents the 1.5 seconds. Not the cicle that designates where the ability will go.

[Aazhyd]

She definitely feels like an Assault character, instead of Support.

[GatoCommodore]

@Gire said:
@Homu1124 Ya, thats that. Instagibbing Rhino that just tells how much overkill dmg its has.

arty andskyhammer must be overkilling too…

[TheFpsPro27]

@GatoCommodore said:

@Gire said:
@Homu1124 Ya, thats that. Instagibbing Rhino that just tells how much overkill dmg its has.

arty andskyhammer must be overkilling too…

@GatoCommodore said:

@Gire said:
@Homu1124 Ya, thats that. Instagibbing Rhino that just tells how much overkill dmg its has.

arty andskyhammer must be overkilling too…

With your logic an explosive with 500 damage, 0.00001 meters blast radius, 0.00001 m/s projectile speed, 10 seconds arming time, 9999 minute cooldown and lasers showing where it lands would be strong as the rocket because it can kill with 1 hit.

[bgyoshi]

@Homu1124 said:
Yup, the missile can be destroyed if you spray fire at her. I’d say that it is wonky though as you spray her at times but when she shoots downward at your feet it usually can’t get destroyed. Also, I have gibbed a full health rhino with my rocket so I’d say it has some intense damage.

@Szakalot said:
just like @Homu1124 indicated, i got instagibbed from full HP as rhino with unshakeable.

Now I know you guys are full of salt. I hit full health Rhinos dead on all the time and they don’t even die lmao

For real, take your complaints to a place where someone might believe you

[TheFpsPro27]

@bgyoshi said:

@Homu1124 said:
Yup, the missile can be destroyed if you spray fire at her. I’d say that it is wonky though as you spray her at times but when she shoots downward at your feet it usually can’t get destroyed. Also, I have gibbed a full health rhino with my rocket so I’d say it has some intense damage.

@Szakalot said:
just like @Homu1124 indicated, i got instagibbed from full HP as rhino with unshakeable.

Now I know you guys are full of salt. I hit full health Rhinos dead on all the time and they don’t even die lmao

For real, take your complaints to a place where someone might believe you

A rhino with unshakeable can survive the blast damage with 30 hp. They are complaining because a direct hit can instakill a rhino. Although i hate javelin, i also thing that a direct hit should be strong enough to instakill everything. Directly hitting someone with rocket is not easy.

[GatoCommodore]

@TheFpsPro27 said:

@GatoCommodore said:

@Gire said:
@Homu1124 Ya, thats that. Instagibbing Rhino that just tells how much overkill dmg its has.

arty andskyhammer must be overkilling too…

@GatoCommodore said:

@Gire said:
@Homu1124 Ya, thats that. Instagibbing Rhino that just tells how much overkill dmg its has.

arty andskyhammer must be overkilling too…

With your logic an explosive with 500 damage, 0.00001 meters blast radius, 0.00001 m/s projectile speed, 10 seconds arming time, 9999 minute cooldown and lasers showing where it lands would be strong as the rocket because it can kill with 1 hit.

no but arty got 2 charge 20 sec cooldown with more damage than the rockets
skyhammer got 60 sec cooldown with arguably the biggest damage in the game per ability and utility to be able to be used indoor with 80dmg and 18 sec cooldown nearly matched fragger in utility, yet people arguing that javelin is OP.

no, javelin isnt OP compared to these guys with space laser, missile barrage, and precision deep artilery strikes that you can drop anywhere open with walls.

[TheFpsPro27]

@GatoCommodore said:

@TheFpsPro27 said:

@GatoCommodore said:

@Gire said:
@Homu1124 Ya, thats that. Instagibbing Rhino that just tells how much overkill dmg its has.

arty andskyhammer must be overkilling too…

@GatoCommodore said:

@Gire said:
@Homu1124 Ya, thats that. Instagibbing Rhino that just tells how much overkill dmg its has.

arty andskyhammer must be overkilling too…

With your logic an explosive with 500 damage, 0.00001 meters blast radius, 0.00001 m/s projectile speed, 10 seconds arming time, 9999 minute cooldown and lasers showing where it lands would be strong as the rocket because it can kill with 1 hit.

no but arty got 2 charge 20 sec cooldown with more damage than the rockets
skyhammer got 60 sec cooldown with arguably the biggest damage in the game per ability and utility to be able to be used indoor with 80dmg and 18 sec cooldown nearly matched fragger in utility, yet people arguing that javelin is OP.

no, javelin isnt OP compared to these guys with space laser, missile barrage, and precision deep artilery strikes that you can drop anywhere open with walls.

Arty, Skyhammer and Kira flinch like hell from taking damage when they use their abilities, so unlike javelin they can use their abilities only when they are out of combat.

All of their abilities create flashy lasers and loud voices before they land. Arty and Skyhammer can’t change the location of their abilities when the lasers appear(1.5 second for arty and 2 for skyhammer). So only noobs get hit by them.

Javelin’s rocket is the only ability that can instantly kill any merch in 1 second without aiming and timing.

[GatoCommodore]

@TheFpsPro27 said:

@GatoCommodore said:

@TheFpsPro27 said:

@GatoCommodore said:

@Gire said:
@Homu1124 Ya, thats that. Instagibbing Rhino that just tells how much overkill dmg its has.

arty andskyhammer must be overkilling too…

@GatoCommodore said:

@Gire said:
@Homu1124 Ya, thats that. Instagibbing Rhino that just tells how much overkill dmg its has.

arty andskyhammer must be overkilling too…

With your logic an explosive with 500 damage, 0.00001 meters blast radius, 0.00001 m/s projectile speed, 10 seconds arming time, 9999 minute cooldown and lasers showing where it lands would be strong as the rocket because it can kill with 1 hit.

no but arty got 2 charge 20 sec cooldown with more damage than the rockets
skyhammer got 60 sec cooldown with arguably the biggest damage in the game per ability and utility to be able to be used indoor with 80dmg and 18 sec cooldown nearly matched fragger in utility, yet people arguing that javelin is OP.

no, javelin isnt OP compared to these guys with space laser, missile barrage, and precision deep artilery strikes that you can drop anywhere open with walls.

Arty, Skyhammer and Kira flinch like hell from taking damage when they use their abilities, so unlike javelin they can use their abilities only when they are out of combat.

All of their abilities create flashy lasers and loud voices before they land. Arty and Skyhammer can’t change the location of their abilities when the lasers appear(1.5 second for arty and 2 for skyhammer). So only noobs get hit by them.

Javelin’s rocket is the only ability that can instantly kill any merch in 1 second without aiming and timing.

while i agree that javelin needs a laser cue like other fire support, theres also other fire support that doesnt have a laser cue and also get nerfed to the point of it become the worst fire support because and people can just walk away from his ability with minimal damage.

can you guess who he is?

[ThePigVomit]

FFS people…

IT’S NOT ABOUT NERFING THE DAMAGE OUTPUT.

make the penalty for noob use (point blank floor sploding survivorship)severe enough so the merc fits the usage slot it is designed for.

[TheFpsPro27]

@GatoCommodore said:

@TheFpsPro27 said:

@GatoCommodore said:

@TheFpsPro27 said:

@GatoCommodore said:

@Gire said:
@Homu1124 Ya, thats that. Instagibbing Rhino that just tells how much overkill dmg its has.

arty andskyhammer must be overkilling too…

@GatoCommodore said:

@Gire said:
@Homu1124 Ya, thats that. Instagibbing Rhino that just tells how much overkill dmg its has.

arty andskyhammer

while i agree that javelin needs a laser cue like other fire support, theres also other fire support that doesnt have a laser cue and also get nerfed to the point of it become the worst fire support because and people can just walk away from his ability with minimal damage.

can you guess who he is?

@GatoCommodore said:

@TheFpsPro27 said:

@GatoCommodore said:

@TheFpsPro27 said:

@GatoCommodore said:

@Gire said:
@Homu1124 Ya, thats that. Instagibbing Rhino that just tells how much overkill dmg its has.

arty andskyhammer must be overkilling too…

@GatoCommodore said:

@Gire said:
@Homu1124 Ya, thats that. Instagibbing Rhino that just tells how much overkill dmg its has.

arty andskyhammer must be overkilling too…

With your logic an explosive with 500 damage, 0.00001 meters blast radius, 0.00001 m/s projectile speed, 10 seconds arming time, 9999 minute cooldown and lasers showing where it lands would be strong as the rocket because it can kill with 1 hit.

no but arty got 2 charge 20 sec cooldown with more damage than the rockets
skyhammer got 60 sec cooldown with arguably the biggest damage in the game per ability and utility to be able to be used indoor with 80dmg and 18 sec cooldown nearly matched fragger in utility, yet people arguing that javelin is OP.

no, javelin isnt OP compared to these guys with space laser, missile barrage, and precision deep artilery strikes that you can drop anywhere open with walls.

Arty, Skyhammer and Kira flinch like hell from taking damage when they use their abilities, so unlike javelin they can use their abilities only when they are out of combat.

All of their abilities create flashy lasers and loud voices before they land. Arty and Skyhammer can’t change the location of their abilities when the lasers appear(1.5 second for arty and 2 for skyhammer). So only noobs get hit by them.

Javelin’s rocket is the only ability that can instantly kill any merch in 1 second without aiming and timing.

while i agree that javelin needs a laser cue like other fire support, theres also other fire support that doesnt have a laser cue and also get nerfed to the point of it become the worst fire support because and people can just walk away from his ability with minimal damage.

can you guess who he is?

Noone is asking for a damage nerf. A skilled player can’t be effected by nerf like"smaller blast radius", “more charging time”, “laser comin from rocket launcher”, “slower projectile”… because a skilled player can still aim and make the rocket explode very close to people. Without a damage nerf it won’t be like stoker’s nerf.

(Btw why does everyone forget about the completely random and unnecessary nerf on flecher)

[GatoCommodore]

@TheFpsPro27
if you havent been around the forum for long, fletcher nerf is one of the most requested nerf since he can one shot every 100hp mercs and below

thats not counting the fact that he has 3 of them and has faster speed yet same hp compared to bushwhacker.

Fletcher is just a better pick than bush or proxy before the nerf.

[bgyoshi]

@TheFpsPro27 said:

(Btw why does everyone forget about the completely random and unnecessary nerf on flecher)

(Btw fletcher is an actually overpowered merc that is hands down better than every engineer in the game and actually stronger than Jav in utility and strength and he could use even further nerfing or the other engineers needs buffing to match)

@ThePigVomit said:

make the penalty for noob use (point blank floor sploding survivorship)severe enough so the merc fits the usage slot it is designed for.

Please show video evidence of someone shooting a rocket that blows up within 5 meters of themselves and they live through it. I have yet to live after blowing up a rocket close to me.