Dreiss accuracy buff?

(Gi.Am) #21

@EtherFox gotta disagree slightly.
First of the Dreiss reached its max bloom after shot 4, at maximum ROF. I tested that quite extensively, aswell as it is evident by all the complaints about the Dreiss, beforehand that it shots went all over the place on hipfire.
If you control your shots to prevent that, you are not shooting at maximum ROF or introducing a artifical delay in between. In both cases you are lowering your effective DPS in those encounters, negating the complaint that you end up with lower DPS.

The fun thing is before they buffed the ROF, the Dreiss was already performing just as good on longrange. infact the higher ROF helped the most, in closecombat reducing the possibility for a fast Merc to slip out between shots. Reducing the situations where you hit upon the 4 shot limit. Now that they limited the maximum spread the higher ROF is less relevant in this case.

On long range, I can see that you would loose DPS/TTK in the maximum performance setting.

However quite often on long range you can’t put out max ROF, since you gotta readjust your aim fight the recoil, you and your targets are doing alot of corner peaking.

Atleast in my opinion, the reliable gain you get in situations, outside of perfect ADS Dreiss range. Outweights the 0.03 seconds it takes longer to put out another shot.

Ofcourse it could just be me, considering that I’m fairly agressive and have a tendency to shoot at the center of mass :wink: , The changes propably buff my personal playstyle more, than someone who is glued to longrange.

(strawberryJacket) #22

After playing a while with dreiss after changes i can say that it was a pretty big nerf. Its still getting inaccurate fast if you shoot at your max rof so the buff was pretty much useless.

If they want dreiss to have the same dps as m4 then it should be a laser all the time, if arty/kira had access to m4 everyone would use it because its easier to use and at the same time is more accurate (then again, at this point i would nerf m4 as well, seeing that most guns that could rival it got nerfed).

I wish that SD would hire a decent player to their dev team because a lot of balance changes seems to be made at random.

(CCP115) #23

[quote=“strawberryJacket;66160”]After playing a while with dreiss after changes i can say that it was a pretty big nerf. Its still getting inaccurate fast if you shoot at your max rof so the buff was pretty much useless.

If they want dreiss to have the same dps as m4 then it should be a laser all the time, if arty/kira had access to m4 everyone would use it because its easier to use and at the same time is more accurate (then again, at this point i would nerf m4 as well, seeing that most guns that could rival it got nerfed).

I wish that SD would hire a decent player to their dev team because a lot of balance changes seems to be made at random. [/quote]

That’s just cause the M4 is more or less the “best” gun in the game right now.

(ttownjoe) #24

People keep saying M4 is best, but the fact remains br16 has a higher dps rate, longer range, and higher accuracy. Only disadvantage is smaller magazine size.

(CCP115) #25

That smaller magazine size is a HUGE disadvantage.

The BR-16 is also much harder to use, and has damage that is identical to the M4 I think. It is also insanely punishing if you miss a burst. DPS is fine and all, but it is very much a stat on paper. Ingame, you won’t be landing all of your shots, so DPS is more or less out the window.

(Szakalot) #26

br16 also sucks at gibbing

(ttownjoe) #27

i dont think so, you gib with headshots, its one burst

(Szakalot) #28

i dont think so, you gib with headshots, its one burst[/quote]

it does suck at gibbing; any weapon is effective if the head is sticking out but:

  • head might not be visible from your angle
  • head might rotate with the ‘dancing body’ bug

Otherwise you typically need 2-3 bursts, which is a hell lot of time

(W4rheart) #29

I wish they would have tried 330 RPM. A 60 RPM change is pretty harsh.

(GuiGuiiii) #30

This man tells the truth

(CCP115) #31

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To be honestly and truthfully fair, Dreiss is not a spammy gun. You want spam? use the BR or Stark. Clearly the devs don’t want this gun to be fired incredibly quickly, or else they would’ve made the RPM 330.

I am a bit confused by all the recoil reductions though, it seems unnecessary at this point.