Disappointed in my new vid card.

[Mr_Chris]

Coolbits owns NVmax

do a search on google for it

[SylverDragon]

Where did you find benchmarks of the Ti4800? I’ve planning on getting a new video card soon, and basically my options are FX5600, Ti4800, and Radeon 9600 Pro. The prices are all within $20 of each other. So far, I’ve found that the 9600Pro generally performs better than the FX5600, but I can’t really find where the Ti4800 fits in.

Found some at

Tom’s Hardware: For The Hardcore PC Enthusiast

Link goes to one review that puts the Ti4800 next to the FX 5200, 5600, and 5800. Also it has the Radeon 9000, 9200, 9500, 9700, and 9800 in the same tests. Unfortunatly, for your purposes, it doesn’t contain the 9600 Pro, though I’m sure a bit of searching on the site will come up with something. I just put in Ti4800 in the serach box, this was the second link it came up with, the first had fewer cards, though it seems like it had more tests.
As for the 9600 Pro, the only thing I came up with is a set of tests, which compare it to the Ti4200 at http://www6.tomshardware.com/graphic/20030416/index.html
to which is is just about comparable. Were I to be in the position choosing between cards again, I wuld probably choose the Ti4800 myself. Though, it does have the limitation that it does not fully use the DirectX 9 capabilities, though I would expect that this won’t be a real necessity for a year or two, and by then, the cards that are hot now will have dropped in price. Would I buy a FX 5900 if I had the $550 to drop on it? Hell ya, but I don’t, so I’m stickng with my Ti4600, and quite happy, thank you.

[_O_SMYLER]

Dutch] I would sacrifice resolution for FPS anyday, there’s little difference between 800X600 & 1024X768 imo (1280X1024 does look better).

Damn fine and correct words of wisdom from the Dutchman.

[Tremo]

I have a GF4-4600 and I get 80-90 fps most of the time.

[_VF_Dutch]

SMYLER][quote=[VF] Dutch] I would sacrifice resolution for FPS anyday, there’s little difference between 800X600 & 1024X768 imo (1280X1024 does look better).

Damn fine and correct words of wisdom from the Dutchman.[/quote]

lo…thnx.

[Bob]

Ok, so, since we have concluded that my FX 5200 is a piece of crap…

I want to exchange it for a different one. So far I’m hearing that the FX 5600 is a very good card and would a very good buy, correct? BTW, I’m not getting a $400-$500 top of the line card, so just exclude those.

[weasel]

Ti4800 does better in benchmarks than FX5600 and costs about the same. That’s what I plan to get.

[SylverDragon]

Ok, so, since we have concluded that my FX 5200 is a piece of crap…

I want to exchange it for a different one. So far I’m hearing that the FX 5600 is a very good card and would a very good buy, correct? BTW, I’m not getting a $400-$500 top of the line card, so just exclude those.

Unless you have some “must have” DirectX 9 feature (is there one yet?), go with a GForce4 Ti 4800, you can get them pretty cheap off the internet, check

Street Price Search Engine

for prices. My roommate just picked one up for ~$150, and has been real happy with it. Thing is, the Ti 4800 is the top end GForce 4, whereas the FX 5600 is a budget version of the GForce FX line. Sure, the FX 5600 is a newer chipset, and has all of the wiz-bang features of DX9, but overall it just wasn’t desiged with hardcore gaming in mind, the Ti 4800 was. And, as I said earlier, I don’t think there is any reason at the moment to be rushing to get a DX9 enabled card. Also by the time that there is a game that absolutly requires DX9, ATI and/or NVidia should have put out another, new card and the FX line will start dropping in price. Consider for a moment that I bought my Gforce 4 Ti 4600 when it was the top card from NVidia (I had a good tax return that year), I paid ~$300. Now you can get them for about half that. So I figure in a year or two, when I am considering upgrading, the FX 5900 Ultra should be closer to $150-$200. Ya, its nice having the latest and greatest card, but for the money you wil usually do better to stay a bit behind the technology curve.

[GAS_InvisableKid]

i heard that the geforce FX range where a flop and most of em being shit, u wanan get a geforce 4

[SylverDragon]

i heard that the geforce FX range where a flop and most of em being shit, u wanan get a geforce 4

I think it was mostly the FX 5800 that sucked. In the reviews I have read on it, NVidia put some really fast memory on the 5800 board, but bandwidth caused it to bottleneck, and perform really below expectations. If my memory is serving me correctly, on the 5900, NVidia used slower memory, but incresed the bandwidth which caused a huge jump in performance. So the moral of the story is research a card before you buy, get some good, solid test results and then pick a card. Though, at the moment, I still agree, buy a GForce 4 Ti 4800, you’ll get more bang for your buck.

[Bob]

So, would this be a good brand for a GeForce 4 Ti 4800?

http://www.allstarshop.com/shop/simprod.asp?pid=6720&ad=pwatch

Or is there another brand that really stands out?

[Wraith2k3]

It shouldn’t really matter too much which brand you get. All will offer the same basic performance. But some brands offer extra features and easier/increased overclocking capabilities etc. If it’s just the performance your looking for, then I’d get whatever is most affordable for you.

also FYI:

I have a ti4200 and it works great for me with ET. I get around 60-90 fps on most maps on “High” video settings at 1152 x 864 res, and around 30-35 in the “low” areas on radar. I love my little card It actually does fine for most games at the moment, which is good since I’m not upgrading it this year anyway.

[Emon]

You want a GF4 Ti 4800 over the FX 5200? I wouldn’t get either. http://newegg.com has some great deals on the Radeon 9700 and 9800, a friend of mine just bought a 9800 for $259!

[weasel]

You want a GF4 Ti 4800 over the FX 5200? I wouldn’t get either. http://newegg.com has some great deals on the Radeon 9700 and 9800, a friend of mine just bought a 9800 for $259!

The Ti4800 is $117 less than that. Not everyone has that much money to spend on a new video card.

[Emon]

I understand that, because neither do I. So alternatively, check out the other Radeons, like the 9600, or the 9500 if it’s still there. A good bit faster than the GF4s if I recall, and probably just as cheap. You can also save money by getting the non-Pro models, Pro is somwhat of a gimmick.

[Bob]

Thanks for all your replies & help, I have a few Ti4800’s picked out and in mind.

[Emon]

Which are they?

[weasel]

I understand that, because neither do I. So alternatively, check out the other Radeons, like the 9600, or the 9500 if it’s still there. A good bit faster than the GF4s if I recall, and probably just as cheap. You can also save money by getting the non-Pro models, Pro is somwhat of a gimmick.

The only benchmark I’ve seen comparing the Ti4800 to radeons is this one, and the Ti4800 beats the 9500 and the 9500 pro in most of the tests (There is a big difference between pro and non-pro). The only ones the Ti4800 struggles in are the FSAA and AF tests. I don’t plan to use either, though, because they reduce FPS a lot for a small increase in image quality, so those tests don’t matter to me.

[Emon]

That’s not as a big difference as you think. I have a Radeon 9700, and it performs almost the same as the 9700 Pro. A little bit of overclocking would make it run just as fast.

[Bob]

I’ve pretty much narrowed it down to two of them, the Chaintech A-GX82 GeForce4 Ti4800SE, or the Gainward GeForce4 PowerPack Ultra/750-8X XP GeForce4 Ti4800SE. I know Gainward is a good company, but I might pick the Chaintech one because its cheaper (if it wouldn’t have any problems for sure).

Oh and weasel, I agree with what you said. The Ti4800 does really good with settings like 1024x768 and all High, which is all I really need. I could care less about AA and AF which are FPS-lag-producing beasts that dont give much noticable quality.