Dirty Bomb The Good the Bad and the Ugly

(1AGRESSOR) #1

well one could say i spammed a forum today :slight_smile:

but i had lots of things/thoughts piling up

i just want to say i LOVE this game finally found something to replace “BattlefieldPlay4Free” rip :frowning:

The good

  1. DB is a first F2P NOT P2W game i have seen
  2. it’s loads of fun ( not much funny moments or possibilities for some but fun anyways )
  3. great community and forum ( said that long time ago in one of my first posts )
  4. omg those merc comments when you tbag lol

… i had more can’t remember now too tired

The bad

  1. from end to actual beginning of next match i can go make coffee and smoke one cigar
    makes me cool down lose concentration and lose will to play or live

  2. terrible balance

  3. …

and the Ugly

  1. sadly cheaters are always have been and will be part of any online game

  2. players with sick offensive and racist names vac bans and n4zi flags on steam profile are allowed to play

but all that can be GREATLY reduced by dedicated private servers and 3rd party Blacklist and active mod/admin on the servers than we could have more clean environment

NO anti cheat is more effective than that ^^^

example in “BattlefieldPlay4Free” we ( the community ) had great volunteers people from T4GBlacklist and BattlefieldTools

thy gave us clean servers with possibility to filter out kick cheaters offensive names give out and manage vip’s you could even manage your server trough your phone and many many great cool features you could not even imagine are possible

#2

Welcome then!

May I ask which balance issues you have encountered?

About the cheaters: That’s why the report function is now included. :slight_smile:

(Faraleth) #3

Stop spamming the forums with these complaint threads. Make one, and construct your arguments on there. Spamming the front page only hinders people’s responses.

(Faraleth) #4

@Amerika @Ardez

(1AGRESSOR) #5

what or who are they^^^ seen that few times??

(Sinee) #6

what or who are they^^^ seen that few times??[/quote]

They’re calling the mods on you to come close your thread because they don’t like what you’re doing.

Anyway. The merc comments when you teabag are amazing, right? I laugh so hard at them. As for racist stuff… I think the new in-game report player function allows you to report this, but I’m not sure.

(Mister__Wiggles) #7

Forum mods @1AGRESSOR

(Lissxy) #8

Also your opinions what you consider as an ‘‘ugly’’ part of the game are out of the hands of the devs. I believe that is Steam’s issue.

(1AGRESSOR) #9

you don’t think that cheaters are the ugly part?

and dev team can make dedicated servers has nothing to do with steam

(Amerika) #10

I do agree that you should only make one thread and stick to it if you’re going to make a running tally of things to give your opinion on. So please do that :slight_smile: It just makes things cleaner and easier to keep up with.

As for what you said a lot of it I agree with. The amount of time in between matches is a sore point I’ve brought up numerous times. I would prefer going from one map to the next instantly and players have the option to enter a Limbo menu (similar to past SD games) and select their mercs and loadouts from there if they desire. I understand the lobby communicates a lot of information, allows you to mess around with your loadouts/mercs, gives mission information and allows a small vote for the next map choice. But all of that could be done in-game and reduce the amount of time it takes to get to the next match.

I also have pointed out, numerous times, the effectiveness or lack of effectiveness in AC solutions based on layers of defense. One of those layers is servers ran by actual people who have a stake in keeping their community cheat/abuse free. But that’s not possible with Dirty Bomb currently as it’s strictly ran using Nexon virtual servers that can be spun up/brought down pretty quickly based on need. This makes sense from a business perspective as it allows a company to more easily control the development and vision of their game. But it removes the chance for the game to expand through mods and to keep the game clean when a new cheat comes out that the AC hasn’t picked up yet. A layered defense for AC is always the best and having actual people in control will pretty much always be one of the best layers of that defense. Maybe in the future but definitely not any time soon.

I don’t agree with you on balance. Each merc isn’t balanced against each other. You don’t balance Phantom against Fragger or Rhino against Sparks. Each merc has their niche. Most are pretty effective on pugs when played right but there is definitely a meta for high end competition. But that’s still evolving as mercs get added. I’d like to hear what you think isn’t balanced. Leaving a comment of, “terrible balance” or “lolololllll” like you did in another thread doesn’t help anybody.

As far as offensive names go you can now easily report them in-game if it bothers you and support can look into it. And VAC bans can’t be imported or used against players according to a devs post on Reddit. They looked into do it and there is either a technical limitation with the Steam API that prevents it or it violates a user agreement with Valve. Not sure there.

And yeah, the special taunt that each merc has when you teabag is pretty genius :slight_smile:

(1AGRESSOR) #11

@Amerika

by balance i meant

i get in

server no1 2 guys lvl 2 are sneaking ducking looking at the sky and running with a weapons in their hands = base rape

server no2 same ^^^

server no3 6vs5 in one team lvl 5-12-20-10-40-50 in my team me lvl 12 and few below 10 and enemy team full of naders

server no4 6vs6 in my team one lost lvl 2 and another lvl 2 that is afk started vote kick 3 times and no kick

etc…

i really HAVE NO IDEA WHY would devs make it possible to get even close to enemy spawn

and servers with 32 players would resolve balance and voting issues

(Amerika) #12

[quote=“1AGRESSOR;79529”]@Amerika

by balance i meant

i get in

server no1 2 guys lvl 2 are sneaking ducking looking at the sky and running with a weapons in their hands = base rape

server no2 same ^^^

server no3 6vs5 in one team lvl 5-12-20-10-40-50 in my team me lvl 12 and few below 10 and enemy team full of naders

server no4 6vs6 in my team one lost lvl 2 and another lvl 2 that is afk started vote kick 3 times and no kick

etc…

i really HAVE NO IDEA WHY would devs make it possible to get even close to enemy spawn

and servers with 32 players would resolve balance and voting issues

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The game and the maps are not made for 32 players. 16 player servers can be a pretty big nightmare as it is.

And there is team balance that happens. It uses the last 10 pub games everyone has played and balances the teams according to those values. So you might see a level 6 guy who has torn things up be opposite a level 30 guy because they both have the same rating from their last 10 games. Also, levels mean absolutely nothing in this game other than it’s an indicator of how much time you’ve spent playing.

However, team balance only happens at the start of a new lobby. Which is the time people notice they got a new case or happen to leave because, as you said, you can basically smoke a cigar in between maps. I’ve personally asked on multiple occasions to look into doing another balance during the warm-up period if the balance rating is off. SD responded with they didn’t want to do that because some people pick their mercs/loadouts based on what side they are on. But this only makes sense if you’re talking only about Objective mode since you play both sides in SW. So I’m not sure what the hangup is. At least make it an option for Stopwatch if nothing else.

(1AGRESSOR) #13

its true that many times i encountered lvl30+ or 50+ that are just noobs

but in even more some 85% of cases higher lvl mean more skill so lvl does matter lvl 2 or 12 can’t play like lvl 56

just now i got in 6 unbelievable 6 servers where my team was base raped
and i had one last of 5 side mission to complete that i tried on 4 more server where i played till the end of the round and was unable to complete the last one so i gave up

also servers now have 3 classes playing nader bushwacker and phoenix so i think ill take break few days or weeks

(Lissxy) #14

you don’t think that cheaters are the ugly part?

and dev team can make dedicated servers has nothing to do with steam
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I didn’t say that. Cheaters will always be the ugly part of a game but what game doesn’t have cheaters and why should you blame the devs for that?

(TheOrangePhantome) #15

Well the report system is a decent start but don’t you think if they implemented VAC or something of that lines it would be much better @Kirays ?