Dirty Bomb is getting Private Test Servers

(Mc1412013) #21

[quote=“Jostabeere;161068”][quote=“Mc1412013;161063”]@stayfreshshoe @RazielWarmonic

how are the lucky individuals being selected? Are the requirements that only moderators and founding players only? meaning none of us post alpha/non mods won’t have a chance or randomly from people that want it?
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It’s basically people who have multiple hundreds of hours/are youtubers/streamers/ and people RazielWarmonic seems to like. Also high rep here on the forums without disagrees. (Like I have because people are not smart or simple jackasses who spam disagrees, like uWotM8 did with 150+ or Kingsley with 50+).
For example FUNNYBLACKMAN got an invite. He fits in 2 criterias and isn’t a founder/Alpha as far as I know.[/quote]

So basically I will never have any shot I hell at this cuz I’m part of the nobody important group. too bad guess my closed beta esting of games ended in the 90s when I was younger. Was kinda fun testing every you don’t know jack version ever made prior to release . Although I don’t know kown how I need up testing Muppets game though

(RyePanda) #22

@Mc1412013 @Jostabeere I can confirm that you don’t have to be pre open beta nor a moderator to be selected.

Nor a youtuber for that matter.

(InfernoKun) #23

Looking forward to have certain community members to provide more effective feedback :#

(B_Montiel) #24

[quote=“Jostabeere;161068”][quote=“Mc1412013;161063”]@stayfreshshoe @RazielWarmonic

how are the lucky individuals being selected? Are the requirements that only moderators and founding players only? meaning none of us post alpha/non mods won’t have a chance or randomly from people that want it?
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It’s basically people who have multiple hundreds of hours/are youtubers/streamers/ and people RazielWarmonic seems to like. Also high rep here on the forums without disagrees. (Like I have because people are not smart or simple jackasses who spam disagrees, like uWotM8 did with 150+ or Kingsley with 50+).
For example FUNNYBLACKMAN got an invite. He fits in 2 criterias and isn’t a founder/Alpha as far as I know.[/quote]

Yes, that seems to be a proficient way to select people to get an average return. That’s preposterous.
People without salt are people with expectations for the game.

I just don’t understand the logic behind it. 2 years of closed alpha/beta/whateveryoucallit then a year of open one, just to fall back to this more or less into closed status. Open test servers would have worked in the exact same way. And to be honest, taking mostly active people is quite stupid. Most of the old community would probably come back if they only knew that the game was going to leave the current hiatus. I can’t play during the week for personal reasons, but most of my community left the game on the shelf because nothing was coming out of it since the last 2 months. And it’s not like we’ve been only attending and profiting of it. We’re mostly alpha players, we’ve sent tons of bug reports, even doing videos of them.

And by the way, I’d be really interested to know if founders received an invite. Looking at warchest, they currently don’t.

(Drac0rion) #25

Real nice news.
Too bad Phantom players are too troll to get invites. :stuck_out_tongue:
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(LoliGagging) #26

Aww, I wanna participate, I have like over 1000 hours ingame but I don’t post here too often

(Jesus) #27

Oh okay so its an arbitrary stuff. Well another disappointement to add to the list

(BerylRdm) #28

Oh okay so its an arbitrary stuff.

What have you expected? RNG? :slight_smile:

(SereneFlight) #29

Inb4 somebody with 10 hours gets in lol.

(Jesus) #30

[quote=“Beryl;161100”]

Oh okay so its an arbitrary stuff.

What have you expected? RNG? :)[/quote]

Something more open id say. I mean i try to be active on forum i spent most of my evenings there but only the simple fact that i discovered the game later directly rid me off the list and probably some more people that might be just as active and involved.
Because we are not in some special elitist group.
So yeah disappointed. Just this announce feel like useless teasing now.
“We are putting up this cool thing but you wont have access to it. Because you arent part of this little group”
That’s purely elitist I don’t see how some people can praise this.
They didnt even took some appliance or anything and just picked people they liked.
And for such a thing I definitly think this way of doing things is utterly wrong.
Thats like not getting a job because the son of a long time friend of the boss applied too.

(blisteringOwlNest) #31

I’m liking this recent peek behind the scenes here, first with th v bear and now this. Little things sure, but hopefully a step in the right direction? While it’s fun to have little mysterys (Aimee? Turtle? Javelin? FALCON?) a completely opaque view of where DB is headed isn’t (sniping nerfs, MP nerfs, Phantom thoughts, competitive changes, possibly future events so people can plan around them)

But positive post! Thank you splash damage for involving us more!!

(Arkii) #32

First off I’m glad its finally happening and that you guys are being open that there is one and not trying to keep it all hush hush even tho it is invite only (and for undeleting that “leaked” pm thread). :>

And naturally I do feel abit miffed about not getting in since I have put 600+ hours into the game since it hit steam and who knows how much from before it was on Steam, but because I don’t post much it feels like I don’t even get considered.

Personally I feel a nicer system would have been one where players can apply for the pts and that the devs can then vet them be it on ingame logs or forums post and pick from that pool. Atleast then it gives us have nots a sense of at least being considered.

Not being negative just trying to give some feedback, I hope the PTS works out well :>

(goldenRacer) #33

Nice, but why you can create a PTS and can’t fix south america servers lol xd

(N8o) #34

tfw when you are almost a top poster and they don’t pick you :frowning:

(goldenRacer) #35

Nice, but why you can create a PTS and can’t fix south america servers lol xd

(Rjsto) #36

@goldenRacer i had a deja vu while i was reading your last post, all the way back to five seconds ago

(Szakalot) #37

guys some points to bring up:

  • revealing what the tests are about would spoil the new content - how can devs test new content in the PTS without giving away what the new content is?
  • revealing what the tests are would cause major amounts of armchair-whine. Remember the days when patch notes were released prior to the patch? huge amounts of whine and flamewars about stuff people didn’t even had a hands on
  • as far as i know playtime alone is hardly a factor, dont think postcount is either. I am no authority here, but my impression is that SD picked first and foremost from people they knew: longtime&active fans of SD games, VIP members & founders and key community figures.
  • this is not for fun: its not so that the ‘elitist group’ can test all the cool jazz before its out there. Its for testing purposes: hunting bugs and glitches in an organized manner is very different from just playing it out, like say the new map weekends we had some time back
  • im pretty sure the only reason this is mentioned is so that people wouldnt think its done behind everyone’s back
  • consider the benefits: new patches are more likely to have less new bugs, new content is likely going to be a lot more polished too.
(Jesus) #38

[quote=“Szakalot;161134”]guys some points to bring up:

  • revealing what the tests are about would spoil the new content - how can devs test new content in the PTS without giving away what the new content is?
  • revealing what the tests are would cause major amounts of armchair-whine. Remember the days when patch notes were released prior to the patch? huge amounts of whine and flamewars about stuff people didn’t even had a hands on
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About that, They are under a Non disclosure agreement. So if Devs learns someone leaked stuffs the leaker is probably gonna get banned from the PTS or might even be the game but i doubt it. And he will never be considered again for anything. They could even just stop the PTS.

For all your other point. I find none of those of any worth. Picking only people they knew and stuff like that is exactly something elitist. I bet lots of people were happy when they saw the title and got turned down when they saw the way of picking those lucky souls.
There is plenty of people who would have been super glad to help and get involved in that while respecting the NDA. But they were immediatly eliminated and given no chance just because they arent on the forum for as long as others or because they are not forum rat or some “community figure”. Thats absolutely not fair for all those people who are as much if not more devoted to the game.
But well i can’t say Im surprised again.
Im not gonna start debating on that apparently its just a matter of differents principles and values.

(Szakalot) #39

[quote=“Jesus;161140”][quote=“Szakalot;161134”]guys some points to bring up:

  • revealing what the tests are about would spoil the new content - how can devs test new content in the PTS without giving away what the new content is?
  • revealing what the tests are would cause major amounts of armchair-whine. Remember the days when patch notes were released prior to the patch? huge amounts of whine and flamewars about stuff people didn’t even had a hands on
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About that, They are under a Non disclosure agreement. So if Devs learns someone leaked stuffs the leaker is probably gonna get banned from the PTS or might even be the game but i doubt it. And he will never be considered again for anything. They could even just stop the PTS.[/quote]

i know, i was referring to the claim that there should be a summary of PTS every week for the general audience.

For all your other point. I find none of those of any worth. Picking only people they knew and stuff like that is exactly something elitist. I bet lots of people were happy when they saw the title and got turned down when they saw the way of picking those lucky souls.
There is plenty of people who would have been super glad to help and get involved in that while respecting the NDA. But they were immediatly eliminated and given no chance just because they arent on the forum for as long as others or because they are not forum rat or some “community figure”. Thats absolutely not fair for all those people who are as much if not more devoted to the game.
But well i can’t say Im surprised again.
Im not gonna start debating on that apparently its just a matter of differents principles and values.

this is not a democracy. Its game design. Its not about ‘fair’ - this is about making a game, not about making players feel good about themselves as far as game development, lol.

Are you seriously suggesting that a small PTS group would require some type of extensive casting of the entire DB playerbase? say, a basic 1on1 tournament, and then a db-lore pop-quiz, and then some psychology tests to ensure people are up to the task, and a 2 year probation period to screen for lazy people? Its also easy to say ’ i want in’ without anything to back it up (not saying thats you), once the feedback deadlines are due.

In my view SD chose people they know because of TRUST. There have been leaks of information under NDA on numerous occasions throughout the development of DB. I can understand why SD is careful with the group of people they reveal some ‘secrets’ too - aren’t you? I can also understand why they first reach out to people who have proven to be valuable, whether through insightful feedback, extensive knowledge of the game’s backend, or even laying out hard cash way back when, as founders.

(AlphaUT) #40

Great news