[QUOTE=Mustang;527044]You can have all the hook checks and gpu dumps you want, but clientside detection is flawed by design.
Give-up on the idea and work on a better solution.[/QUOTE]
pls explain why
because the way i see it, it has flaws, but not as many as letting the community do it
[QUOTE=Amerika_KC;527043]As a person who was the head of CAL Anti-Cheat back in the day and very involved in rooting out skilled players who were also skilled at cheating and hiding it, I know what I want to see in a good AC. The issue is, as pointed out earlier, that you take away users privacy by creating an AC that would be any good. The AC would need to have quite a few elevated rights to your system and be able to scan things like key presses, macro usage, browser caches, processes that are running, ability to pick up processes hooking into the DB executable, applications installed, raw image dumps from the GPU, image dumps after GPU rendering (what the person actually sees on their screen), people assigned to constantly infiltrate cheat makers sites and buy all the latest cheats, create signatures to identify the cheats or parts of them and many other things. Not only that, but the AC has to provide tools for the community to use and a proper reporting system with something similar to Overwatch would also go a long way. I am simplifying what is actually involved by quite a bit too.
So it might sound like a simple request in most people’s heads but it’s not. Also, are you willing to give up that much privacy to a company that may or may not have your best intentions in mind? Let us look at ESEA. It’s AC is regarded as one of the best ever created. It has a lot of the features I cited and also have elevated privs. Also, the makers included a bitcoin miner and were caught doing so and claimed it was an April Fool’s Day joke gone wrong even though none of that made sense. People still use ESEA but it’s a prime example of what giving up that kind of privs on your computer means. Hell, recently people went nuts when they found out VAC was scanning browser cache looking for some cheat software’s DRM that was phoning home. That’s all it did but many people were outraged when they found out.
There is a reason why most games don’t have an amazing AC. It’s because it’s impossible without pissing off a pretty good portion of your potential playerbase and it’s a PR nightmare that might be worse than cheaters being more prominent in your game (since everyone expects cheaters and has for 20 years). I’m not saying SD couldn’t do better but I just want to throw out how realistic some of the requests are and what it would mean for those who aren’t as well versed in the area.[/QUOTE]
sure, AC takes work, but it’s better than nothing and is a NECESSITY, not a luxury. There are plenty of games that are now unplayable due to how hacker infested they are, and this only happens in games with garbage AC (or none, which is pretty much what xigncode comes down to).
overwatch isn’t needed to complement AC, the whole point of a good AC would be to remove the need of an overwatch system,although all that’s needed to complement the AC is demo recording (which is needed for other reasons too) and the ability to send demos to support.
