can we have autobalance ?

(BananaSlug) #1

i just ask for auto balance in pubs like in TF2 i know people are complaining how bad it is but i personally think its great

(Jostabeere) #2

This is much needed. I used to make multiple threads about it in the past. Stopped since nothing changed nor the devs responded in any way to this issue. Maybe there is something at SD’s forum, but I don’t browse it.

(Izzy) #3

But something a bit smarter than the one in TF2 with simple rules:

Don’t break parties (when there will be parties)
Don’t move the players that are one the server since the longest time.

(bontsa) #4

Yes we can.

[spoiler]And I sure hope we will.[/spoiler]

(SaulWolfden) #5

It is desperately needed, games remain unbalanced (4 v 6 for instance) despite there being an even number of players on a server. This happens because people start leaving (usually because they are losing) and then sometimes that team ends up getting stomped due to being outnumbered and then people joining get in and see this and just leave or the people who have been getting stomped leave. It’s a vicious cycle.

(XavienX) #6

Just have team shuffle automatically on.
That simple but they won’t do it.

(iPod_) #7

As long as it doesn’t shuffle the players that are actually doing something for the team (Top score/kills) then +1.

(torsoreaper) #8

If the match is super uneven and it’s less than something between 33% and 50% (people can argue the amount) it should full shuffle and just restart the map and everyone’s points. Usually during a bad stomp, the losing half mostly leaves within the first 5 minutes so really we could even say if it’s in the first 15% of the match.

(uWotm8-AU) #9

Better idea is to stop people leaving so often, it’s not really fair to somebody playing their first game of the day and playing well to get switched to a losing team just because some people prefer to quit rather than stay and fight.

(Aazhyd) #10

So you are 5 minutes in a game, then the game resets and you lose everything you did? OMG, I would be so angry. Playing for nothing. That’s not fun.

Autobalance, yes. Losing XP / credits: NO.

(Naralin) #11

Are we gaining anything special upon victory? Like extra credits and or XP?
I’ve never paid attention but I think there is only the first win bonus.

That being said, it wouldn’t matter much if you are forced to shuffle.
I was also against it when our profile displayed the Win/Loss ratio. Since they removed it I don’t really mind being switched even if I was doing well in the stomping team.

Let’s be honest though, it would irk me but well, fair enough.
On top of that, leaving a game should be a punishable behavior.

(Aazhyd) #12

Competitive, yes. Pubs: definitely NO. Some people have lifes that interfere or just don’t enjoy a game where they get spawn camped. They should have the option to leave.

(SaulWolfden) #13

Competitive, yes. Pubs: definitely NO. Some people have lifes that interfere or just don’t enjoy a game where they get spawn camped. They should have the option to leave.
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This, being in a game where you team is being stomped is one of the most unfun experiences you can have in the game, it tends to happen in pubs which have no reason to have any punishment for leaving.

(Naralin) #14

By leaving, you also make the game unfun for other players who don’t really care being stomped since you may still have some fun under those circumstances. There is a difference between getting stomped 8vs8 and 5vs8.

Autobalance is much needed then!

(Jostabeere) #15

Stop making the first win so important. That’s additional reward, not the actual core-part of the game. Fair games are far more important than some 500 Credits for stomping a team and ruining their fun.

(uWotm8-AU) #16

Oh please, people being stomped aren’t having their fun ruined by their opposition their fun is being ruined by people on their own team who have left, creating the unbalanced situation in the first place.

(Jostabeere) #17

[quote=“uWotm8-AU;120811”]Oh please, people being stomped aren’t having their fun ruined by their opposition their fun is being ruined by people on their own team who have left, creating the unbalanced situation in the first place.

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So if people leave, auto-balance assign people fro the other team so everyone has fun and has the same chances on the first win. A good player will win a game no matter on what team he is.
Also, people don’t leave without a reason most of the time.

(Aazhyd) #18

[quote=“uWotm8-AU;120811”]Oh please, people being stomped aren’t having their fun ruined by their opposition their fun is being ruined by people on their own team who have left, creating the unbalanced situation in the first place.
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Enter autobalance: no need to leave the game, because it becomes balanced by default. A penalty for leaving would then not be needed.

Fixing the problem beats punishing players.

(watsyurdeal) #19

Autobalancing on pubs? Sure, if the teams are uneven absolutely, since not everyone will switch over.

Penalty for leaving? No, HELL NO, this is a pub guys, not competitve, stop trying to make them the same and instead discuss ways to get people to play that mode.

(Szakalot) #20

if the game becomes a 4v6 or 5v8 autobalance is desperately needed! its a huge advantage for the bigger team and basically not a real game anymore.

relying on new people joining doesnt help, by the time new people join another person will ragequit causing an endless circle of unbalance. plus it only takes a minute to swing map balance and screw up the game.

autobalance would also incentivize people to ‘F1’ a shuffle vote: you might as well agree to shuffle if you already ‘risk’ getting switched