C4


(stealth6) #1

What do you guys think about the C4 mechanics in DB?

I much prefer the W:ET version allowing you to put it in a larger area around an objective an arm it with multiple people. You could also arm a bit, stop shoot some people and then continue.

In DB, you have to be looking in the right spot and then hope your team covers you since you can’t look around.


(Runeforce) #2

I prefer the etqw method (similar to W:ET): you stick the explosive on the objective and then arm it and everyone can help out arming it. Unarmed plants disappear after about 20 seconds. This way you can abandon the plant (to say, shoot incommng enemies) and return to it and finish it afterwards (without losing any progress.)


(stealth6) #3

Reminded me another advantage is that you can place and arm dynamite anywhere for some added fun.


(murka) #4

FYI you can look around while planting. Just start the plant animation and look where you want, you can also use this to alter the c4 location.


(Seanza) #5

Would REALLY love to see the ability to plant C4 wherever since that was SO fun in ET:QW. Not only was it fun, but it was a cool extra tactic to deploy.


(amazinglarry) #6

Count me in for somebody who would like to see it planted anywhere you want.

It’s almost counter-intuitive to be able to equip it from your weapon bank but not be able to do anything with it (unless you’re near the objective).

I, for one, would like to be able to plant one on the EV :stuck_out_tongue: (and if you can, then I just haven’t successfully been able to yet)


(Humate) #7

It’s almost counter-intuitive to be able to equip it from your weapon bank but not be able to do anything with it (unless you’re near the objective).

Yep its one of the first things i noticed, that confused me.


(aowblacky) #8

Whats up with this thread and the idea of the wolf:et planting-system?
i would pref the wolf:et planting-system! the current system (holding a key and look into the wall) is rly boring :confused:


(rookie1) #9

I can move side to side while rep Ev …I wish i could do the same on Barricade !


(stealth6) #10

Just had a thought on C4, it’s pretty weird that you can’t arm the bomb somewhere else and then walk over to the train and just drop it off. I know that it’s just gameplay logic it’s always been like that, but think about it for a minute… It’s pretty odd right?

How about instead of having an “arming animation” it’s changed into a “mounting animation”. Like you have to attach it to the objective with hooks or magnets or something cool like that. (I’m sure the artists can come up with something better than that)
Maybe some spider like claws that slowly crunch into the metal, would also explain the waiting time - need to wait till it’s secure. (don’t want live C4 falling on the floor)

That would also allow you to stick the C4 in weirder places like on the roof or wall. This would also make it clearer wear the C4 is, since it would be C4 + mount instead of just a flat box on the floor.


(Stoffifee) #11

I am also for a few changes in the planting system. :cool:

I know it looks somewhat stupid, but engineers should be able to turn around while planting. Of course, it is nice to be protected by the team, but as Engi at least visually to keep your back up, should be possible.

I am also in favour of planting C4 anywhere. If i think of ET, then i found its planting-system allways best. What would be of course absolutely necessary, is a much stronger optical signal. That is something we do need by now already tbh. It must be visible easily from a distance, if there is C4 ticking. Also a changing blink speed, regarding to the remaining time, would be very nice.

Cheers :slight_smile:


(BomBaKlaK) #12

yep ! +1 vote change the planting system and add C4 in the weapon inventory with a single bomb at a time like before. An add some glow or something to find it quick, and a sound to know the explosion timing.
old school dude !!


(barbaresh) #13

[QUOTE=BomBaKlaK;424459]yep ! +1 vote change the planting system and add C4 in the weapon inventory with a single bomb at a time like before. An add some glow or something to find it quick, and a sound to know the explosion timing.
old school dude !![/QUOTE]

yup like CS it will be mnuch better.


(EnderWiggin.DA.) #14

C4 used to be in the inventory but was removed because feedback said it was silly to have a weapon bank item for something that can only be armed at set objectives.


(BomBaKlaK) #15

so give the players the ability to use it anywhere ? like said before


(Mustang) #16

I don’t believe this is true.

I’m fine with having it as a weaponbank that can only be deployed when near an objective, at least it’s better than what we have right now.


(iwound) #17

i liked the QW mechanic but be allowed to to throw it down rather than place it. should have the possibility of mis-plants. be planted by others as well.
plant anywhere. i dont think it would impact gameplay too much.
but its one of those things thats taken out of the players control.
all we are doing is going up to something and pressing a button meh.
total freedom with the C4 would help game flow and gameplay. as an engie is at the mercy of anyone around him.
if he can throw down he can then at least have a chance of survival.

a thrown down c4 could also be mined to protect from further planting. so you couldnt just walk away from an unplanted c4. well at least for a few seconds.


(BomBaKlaK) #18

After playing bit more engie I really dislike the plant mechanic … Like said iwound the possibility off miss plant or your bomb plant by another are fun, the diffuse system is a bit better.

But having the control to where do I plant my charge is really important to me, it’s really much smoother in ET or ETQW and defenders need to find the bomb (light like in ETQW to find it quick to but not so quick as it is in DB) before diffuse. (love the tricks plants !)
here that’s not needed you just put in front and hop it’s diffuse !


(ImageOmega) #19

I find it funny that you guys are expressing the desire to actually be able to mess up when planting. I can only imagine the backlash newbie players and Splash Damage alike would get for messing up a plant.

I do think a plant mechanic like CS where you can plant anywhere you want while inside the “bomb zone” would be a great idea and addition. Having to look for the bomb (or listen for it) is definitely a small addition, but fun addition to help the offensive team. This would mean the C4 would be an item you can equip at any time and take up a weapon/item slot.

However, I think this mechanic can co-exist with the existing “Press KEY to Plant” mechanic. That way you protect/help the newbies and keep the elements you guys are also clamoring for.


(acutepuppy) #20

If it was an item, with a press-to-plant on objectives then problem largely solved.

+1 for et:qw style… along with soldier getting the c4 back :o