Brink vs Lost

(wolfnemesis75) #21

[QUOTE=Thundermuffin;371085]Did you even read my post? I freaking agreed with you that he left for personal reasons (I just stated what they were for people wondering as lots of people didn’t follow the show that in depth and wondered why he was suddenly killed off), but you never mentioned he wanted a crap ton of money to come back for the finale + reunion show. He was not just too busy as you imply, because every news site reported that he just wanted so much money to do it. He was willing to come back, they just had to pay him better than Matthew Fox which wasn’t going to happen.

By the way, no one takes your “my friend” stuff seriously; you may be telling the truth, but that’s something that has no meaning and people just laugh in their heads as they read it.

EDIT: @Frost I wouldn’t call LOST’s ending sucky, it just didn’t really hit a lot of people if they didn’t understand it. I really liked the ending, as there wasn’t really much else to do with the story of Jack unless you wanted to watch him bleed out for another 3 episodes.[/QUOTE]
My friend grew up with Mr. Echo. Truth. And yes, I am not making it up. Also, you go by stuff you got from news site and reporters, and I tell you my friend talks to him all the time, and they grew up together and share a circle of friends. But yeah, for various reasons, he did not continue with the show or do the season finale. We’ll leave it at that.

Brink has an evolving story similar to Lost in the sense it has alternative endings and What if scenarios. :slight_smile:

(Throbblefoot) #22

I can’t imagine that Brink and Lost have anything in common… Oh, wait…

-Throbblefoot

(.FROST.) #23

[QUOTE=Thundermuffin;371085]

EDIT: @Frost I wouldn’t call LOST’s ending sucky, it just didn’t really hit a lot of people if they didn’t understand it. I really liked the ending, as there wasn’t really much else to do with the story of Jack unless you wanted to watch him bleed out for another 3 episodes.[/QUOTE]

Ok, maybe it wouldn’t have been sucky if it would’ve been a single-season mini-series, but people invested 5 years of their life in it. I mean literally. It wasn’t the Big-Bang conclusion and there are at least one bazillion questions left unanswered. No matter how much you twist and turn the ending. That is a fact. We wanted answers and we got metaphysical crap. I’d bet everything, that you would watch an additional whole season just to get all those answers. Because the ending was an unannounced coitus interruptus. Sorry, I’m not so easy to please, since I’m a very curious guy.

(.Chris.) #24

It was always about the people not the island, I too would have liked to know more about the island and stuff but I think the ending was meant to show it was never really a show about an island, it was a show about a group of people.

(zenstar) #25

I thought the ending was a sellout. It wasn’t bad but it was just so “meh”.
What would have made the “flash sideways” thing so much more awesome is if it was a parallel timeline in which the plane never crashed on the island and somehow (another experiment?) knowledge of each other starts bleeding through the timelines and the people on the island have to work together with their alternate selves and end up having to somehow destroy the island (and themselves) to prevent it from crashing the plane (guess they’d have to go back in time again) so that they could live their lives as we see them in the flash-sideways. Something like that would have been a more awesome ending in my eyes.

And Sawyer was the best character who always got screwed over because Jack was the whineyest emodoctor in the world. They totally could have ended it with 3 eposides of Jack slowly bleeding out and there’d be a bunch of viewers who would have been happy.

(.FROST.) #26

Agree. And I knew it was all about the characters. I knew that and they did a great, great job with that.

BUT WHY IN HELL couldn’t they came up with a equally great ending to this? How can movies have insane visuals and production costs, while the “little guy” on the writing table isn’t able to tie together all the loose threads he threw around just for the sake of exciting people. And boy I was exited. They had the hype, they had the money and most of all they had the audience. Writing is cheap(realativelly) and we are talking here solely about a guy writing “the right lines” of script. How could they fail? Its not like a director says; “We couldn’t realize this scene because it would have doubled the budget of the entire movie”. No, they just didn’t know how to wrap it up. Instead they came up with a c-movie solution. Sure it was acceptable. Did I like it? No. Was I satisfied? No.

And where is the sense in building up a huge story only to show people in the end, that it never was about the story? Thats cheap. And its very sad that so many people just accepted that and therefore consider themselfs the enlightened ones.

Its the same with many other film recensions on Amazon. Only because you dislike certain parts of a movie, or the entire movie at all, “you didn’t got it”. This standard statement is at least as lame and cheap as the ending of Lost.

But I’ll mention it again; Lost was one hell of a show till the last episode.

Btw, another similarity between Brink and Lost; Chen calls his people repeatedly “brothers”. So did a certain Desmond in Lost.

(.Chris.) #27

Yeah but when Desmond said it, it was cool rather than annoying.

(.FROST.) #28

That is very true. “Dess” and Locke where my favorites.

I also liked the korean couple and their story very much. From the first few episodes I would’ve never thought they could or would appeal to me. But there where so many great characters and actors I don’t wanna start with it.

(.Chris.) #29

[QUOTE=.FROST.;371190]That is very true. “Dess” and Locke where my favorites.

I also liked the korean couple and their story very much. From the first few episodes I would’ve never thought they could or would appeal to me. But there where so many great characters and actors I don’t wanna start with it.[/QUOTE]

I was pretty pissed that after spending about two series trying to get back with each other, a few episodes later after they succeed they both die…

(Thundermuffin) #30

@Everyone complaining about the ending: Yeah I know a lot of people didn’t like it and I can totally see why. It was a lackluster ending if you cared about the island and stuff, but the story was always about Jack. It was Jack’s life and his adventure, and I accepted that (and figured teh ending would only resolve his story line and questions really pertaining to him) once I read that’s how it was suppose to go. Plus I read LOSTpedia a lot and found out a lot of answers via it.

I’d love to learn more about Dharma or the island, and I’m sure we’ll probably find out more via a movie or, gasp, a book! :stuck_out_tongue: I’d also love to see a TV movie about Ben and Hurley’s adventures and maybe include Walt in it, too, lol.

(zenstar) #31

[QUOTE=Thundermuffin;371451]@Everyone complaining about the ending: Yeah I know a lot of people didn’t like it and I can totally see why. It was a lackluster ending if you cared about the island and stuff, but the story was always about Jack. It was Jack’s life and his adventure, and I accepted that (and figured teh ending would only resolve his story line and questions really pertaining to him) once I read that’s how it was suppose to go. Plus I read LOSTpedia a lot and found out a lot of answers via it.

I’d love to learn more about Dharma or the island, and I’m sure we’ll probably find out more via a movie or, gasp, a book! :stuck_out_tongue: I’d also love to see a TV movie about Ben and Hurley’s adventures and maybe include Walt in it, too, lol.[/QUOTE]

SPOILERS AHEAD FOR ANYONE WHO HASN’T SEEN THE END OF LOST AND HASN’T ALREADY HAD IT RUINED FOR THEM BY READING UP TO THIS POINT.

It wasn’t really that the ending only wrapped up Jack’s story. Well not for me anyway. I just felt that the whole “we’re all ghosts waiting to meet up before moving on” thing was a bit lame. It felt a bit like a forced happy ending when there were possibilities for a (IMO) far cooler stuff.
As a whole the show was pretty good. It lost (haha -_-) it’s way a little in the middle when they were told they had to stretch it out for more seasons, but I admire the way they eventually stood up and said “we are bringing the story to an end”.
I like a show that has a defined story arc and comes to a conclusion. Far too many shows just stop in the middle of things because they slowly lost popularity. I’d rather be left with a completed story and wanting more than for a show to fade away unfinished. At least Lost did put that final chapter in.
And I think to go back to it with a movie or something would cheapen the rest of it. It was a good series as a whole, but it’s done now. Let the talent move onto something new and entertain us with new stories.
Like a show about a conflict on a city floating in the ocean ??? :wink:

(wolfnemesis75) #32

I like the end of Lost. Stories like that are more about the Journey rather than the definitive end. I know they talked to SK a lot while working on the final season of Lost. Dark Tower, now that’s how you end a series! Or how Star Trek Gen ended was great (although they knew there would be a movie). All in all, I was satisfied with Lost ending. Best two seasons were the first two, and the last was great. Best episode ever was The Constant. Also really liked LaFleur. Just great. Pilot was amazing. Good times. Will be missed.

Falling Skies is not bad (not as good as lost) but pretty good. Check it out.

All this brings me back to Brink. Give us some Brink story supplements, please. Novel! FTW! :slight_smile:

(Thundermuffin) #33

The show about a city in the ocean would have too many bugs. :wink:

Yeah, I guess you’re right, but I have to have props for the LOST people for using religion at all in the show, especially all the relations one can draw between LOST’s world and happenings and the Bible (Jacob and the man in black, Adam and Eve, etc.).

To be honest, I just wanted the show to end with Jack’s eyes closing. It could have been a 2 hour slow motion video of his eyes closing and that would have made the show for me.

I don’t really think a movie would cheapen it as long as it either didn’t contain any of the actual main cast or if it was taking place after everyone but Ben and Hurley had left. I’d love to learn about the others and just follow one of them (not Ben and way before he got there hopefully) or follow the mathematicians from Dharma.

(wolfnemesis75) #34

I still think Lost could be done with a new cast starting from scratch on a different Island but oh so similar but not! Could even pay homage to the original series with cameos and easter eggs. The cast was great, but the island was what brought out the magic and the script. Just find a bunch of new struggling actors desperate to push the envelope and put their heart and soul into it. :slight_smile:

(Thundermuffin) #35

No, just no; they tried that with That 70’s Show and it failed miserably. Doing that with LOST is a really bad idea as the best part was the characters and they were the purpose of the story. The island wasn’t so much what brought out the magic as it was just a back drop. The characters and the actors were the magic as they were believable and everyone could relate to one character somehow, whether it be not being able to let go or having a problem with substance abuse. When I think of places on the island, I think a lot more of what the characters did there, how it shaped the characters or how it showed them they had a purpose.

(wolfnemesis75) #36

Ok Mr. Contrary.

You so right, because it’d be impossible to find other actors this talented or pretty…

And I said long ago that a Brink Movie would be cool just like a Lost movie.
Oh, and don’t say 70’s Show and Lost in the same sentence. No, just no. :slight_smile:

(Thundermuffin) #37

You do understand that when you make a memorable series you don’t always just recreate it, because the original actors captured the mood perfectly, right? It’s like if they remade Gilligan’s Island. You might find great actors to play it, but they wouldn’t be anywhere as good as the originals.

(wolfnemesis75) #38

Star Trek proved otherwise 4 times over and more. :slight_smile:

(Thundermuffin) #39

How many times did Star Trek fail, though? There’s just as many failures in there as there are “wins,” and those wins are really debatable depending on how much of a Trekkie you are from what I’ve read, heard, and seen.

(wolfnemesis75) #40

Ok Mr. Contrary. Skulk away. Skulk away. Eventually there’ll be more Lost stuff. Mark my words. Just like more Brink and harry potter and star wars and star trek and halo and Gears of War and COD Aliens Avatar the list goes on…

ya got ta feed the machine, brotha :slight_smile: