Out of curiosity, I wonder how many of those (mostly negative) reviews:
I know there were several review sites that are/were guilty of #1, but I don’t know if any of them followed up with #2 (which would have been the thing to do).
Between pretending to work, posting here, and playing Brink at home, I haven’t had the time to review the reviewers~
[QUOTE=AmishWarMachine;355532]Out of curiosity, I wonder how many of those (mostly negative) reviews:
I know there were several review sites that are/were guilty of #1, but I don’t know if any of them followed up with #2 (which would have been the thing to do).
Between pretending to work, posting here, and playing Brink at home, I haven’t had the time to review the reviewers~[/QUOTE]
Definitely a few, RPS held off on their review on purpose as they were holding out for the patch to give it a fair chance, but others reviewed their early copes and had it written up to post as soon as the embargo was lifted. I was never a fan of the poor reviews that Brink got, and interestingly the issue you brought up is one of the reasons I dislike using pro reviewers as a source as it can work both ways.
That said, SD isn’t exactly blameless in this. A beta would’ve caught those issues early on and no one would’ve had to wait for a patch, but well they’re the face of the product… could’ve been Beths doing that there was no beta which I fully suspect it was considering SD’s other 2 games had betas.
I even did amini-review myself when I got to play it at EGE, and at the time (PC player on a console perspective) it was actually quite nice.
[QUOTE=SockDog;355478]Thank you. 
I get people like the game but the sheer balls out denials of any negative aspect is laughable. The fact people are talking sequels two months after release speaks volumes about the true impressions people have of the game.[/QUOTE]
I forgot to check. Oof. Will put in my checklist for Thursday.
Also this brink/transformers discussion is pointless. You can’t compare gaming ans movies.
Transformers is a multi billion dollar franchise. Brink is not.
With TF1, it wasn’t super well liked by critics and yet made tons of cash. Why? When you look at the movies, how many are out at once so you want to see? Very few if any. So consumers usually make a quick choice ar the theater, ans a popcorn flick with lots of things exploding is an easy choice for most people. Factor in kids who care not about cinematic quality but love robots…factor in teens trying to get their dick sucked at any movie they can. Plus the price point isn’t super high and due to rating, everyone can see it. It made enough for TF2 (which let’s be honest, was probably written before TF1 was done). TF2 was eecieved poorly at the press but still made tons of money for ALL the aforementioned reasons. TF3 was guaranteed. Factor in the income from licensing and toys and tie ins; astronomical.
Brink is a new IP that cost $60 up front. Its style of ganeplay is not for everyone yet was marketed as such, on TOP of being falsely advertised to fans of ET. It has no tie in products, no other source of income. Plus, gaming is a tighter knit group of consumers than movie goers; word of mouth spreads and has a bigger impact.
They are two completely different businesses. Apples and oranges. Unless Brink is somehow pulling in boats of cash from DLC there is 0 reason to continue the franchise. It sold over a million at retail supposedly but if the DLC sells like garbage that means the playerbase IS NOT THERE anymore and is a very good sign that Brink 2 will not be worth anyones’ time.
[QUOTE=DarkangelUK;355536]Definitely a few, RPS held off on their review on purpose as they were holding out for the patch to give it a fair chance, but others reviewed their early copes and had it written up to post as soon as the embargo was lifted. I was never a fan of the poor reviews that Brink got, and interestingly the issue you brought up is one of the reasons I dislike using pro reviewers as a source as it can work both ways.
That said, SD isn’t exactly blameless in this. A beta would’ve caught those issues early on and no one would’ve had to wait for a patch, but well they’re the face of the product… could’ve been Beths doing that there was no beta which I fully suspect it was considering SD’s other 2 games had betas.
I even did amini-review myself when I got to play it at EGE, and at the time (PC player on a console perspective) it was actually quite nice.[/QUOTE]
Sorry to post again but looking back, a lot of the core issues reviewers had with the game still stand; not the technical aspects but the design ans gameplay. The 50-65/100 range reviews are honestly all correct.
[QUOTE=peteXnasty;355544]
They are two completely different businesses. Apples and oranges. [/QUOTE]
I really can’t be bothered to discuss your points. No disrespect, I am just bored and have already made my statement as clearly and concisely as I could.
But, your one point above is where you’re off. The movie and videogame industry have many more similarities than differences, with the biggest difference being the lack of hot chicks willing to do certain favors for a bit part in the videogame industry. At least in my opinion, since I am a manager in the videogame industry and have not yet had the “perks” certain movie folks get.
Im more commenting on the discussion that “a 2 means people will buy it, it worked for transformers”
It worked for Tf for a multitude of reasons that dont apply here
The strongest points are 1,2 and 6.
[QUOTE=peteXnasty;355597]Im more commenting on the discussion that “a 2 means people will buy it, it worked for transformers”
It worked for Tf for a multitude of reasons that dont apply here[/QUOTE]
Which is absolutely not what I said.
I said that a movie/videogame sequel can work even if professional reviews are crap and fans of the genre didn’t like the first one, thanks to a great marketing campaign and other factors.
Hopefully, those other factors for Brink2 will include some of the things that the masses of asses are asking for without ruining the core concept of Brink. I’m all for multiplayer lobbies, end of game chat, a pro-mode with better gun aiming/bullet spread, a real single player campaign, and TDM and other game modes. Even the SDK would be great although it ain’t ever gonna happen. But I’m on here to chat about the good things about Brink and why I like it and try to be positive…
Nah, forget it… instead I’m just gonna sit here on the boards all day and hate hate hate like a whiny bizznitch while trying to shoot down any positive posts Brink fans make.
[QUOTE=DarkangelUK;355527]This is called ‘an adult discussion’, you should try it… it’s awesome. It’s refreshing to actually speak to someone rather than have your thoughts land of deaf ears, or simply reply by calling you a troll because they have no actual valid input to give. I recommend you and your flunky Oshino keep your noses out if all you’re going to do is try and antagonize the situation instead of letting us have a civilized discussion.
@Oachino: I ignored both your down reps, but it seems all you want to do is call people names in the comments of the reputation system, so you got one in return. As I said before, if you think I’m wrong then feel free to join the discussion and add your input in a dignified manor, but I believe you’re incapable of doing so, that’s why you say nothing and have cheeky little digs via the reputation function instead.
I defended Brink long before you knew this forum even existed, when design decisions were announced I gave positive reasons for them and we had discussions that carried on for 10+ pages, because back then we weren’t influxed by everyone shouting “TROLL” or “HATER” just because the other person didn’t agree with you POV. I tried to convince others to give these design decisions a try, as I would, before berating Splash Damage for them… ask the old timers here, Nail, Tokamak, Apples, H0RSE. We had epic discussions with replies that gad meaning (not all of course), and were’t just petty comments with no substance reasoning. I can’t speak for anyone else, but at no point did anyone turn into a petty child and start neg repping because they didn’t agree.
If you don’t like my views, tell me why, I’m pretty easy going and open to debate. As soon as you start derailing it to simple name calling… then i’ll tear you a new one.
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@Sin
As I said, each to their own. I believe mass input will always give a better view rather than a narrow input from a select few who could easily skew the results (can’t remember what professional website gave Brink a 2, and it turned out he only played it for 4 or 5 hrs total).[/QUOTE]
Angel you are sort of like me. Except I add more insults and names when I post, which usually makes people ignore me. But I only did it to wolf (his idiotic delusional statements made me rage irl.). After that I wouldn’t call anyone names until some person comes in and calls me a troll or hater.
But the reality is they have nothing to say and can only pull some wisecrack.
Btw sindonnor you are trying too hard. Not saying this is true at all, but most of your posts give me the vibe you don’t get enough attention irl.
[QUOTE=SinDonor;355610]Which is absolutely not what I said.
I said that a movie/videogame sequel can work even if professional reviews are crap and fans of the genre didn’t like the first one, thanks to a great marketing campaign and other factors.
Hopefully, those other factors for Brink2 will include some of the things that the masses of asses are asking for without ruining the core concept of Brink. I’m all for multiplayer lobbies, end of game chat, a pro-mode with better gun aiming/bullet spread, a real single player campaign, and TDM and other game modes. Even the SDK would be great although it ain’t ever gonna happen. But I’m on here to chat about the good things about Brink and why I like it and try to be positive…
Nah, forget it… instead I’m just gonna sit here on the boards all day and hate hate hate like a whiny bizznitch while trying to shoot down any positive posts Brink fans make.
[/QUOTE]Haha dude youre not the person in even addressing, its all good
I haven’t touched the game ib a month
[QUOTE=Acorn1021;355607]1. Movies are cheaper.
2. Less movies at once, and A LOT of people go to movies every week (or have some routine) and go to a movie that they think is best that is out right now.
3. Explosions are pretty.
4. Robot fights are cool.
5. Not a lot of people care about the bad story (don’t care as much), they just want to go see explosions.
6. Avatar the last airbender got good reviews, but everyone hated it since it was NOTHING like the original cartoon (characters sucked, etc.).
The strongest points are 1,2 and 6.[/QUOTE]
Movie = $10 for 2 hours = $5/hr of entertainment value
Game = $60 for 30+hours = Less than $2/hr of entertainment value.
This of course is valid for movies and games I actually like. I recently have been feeling more disappointed about movies over games, as many “blockbuster” movies I have seen over the last 10 years have just been “meh”.
What? I average about 4 movies a month, but I also average 4 games a month. My games take up a lot more of my time than my movie watching and I already explained the value of both of them above.
I think this movie did get like 4 good reviews and 80 bad ones. Not quite the same ratio as Brink’s good to bad reviews. Didn’t quite get the gist of this point. I dunno what you’re smokin’, but it’s probably some funky stuff and I am jealous.
[QUOTE=peteXnasty;355613]Haha dude youre not the person in even addressing, its all good
I haven’t touched the game ib a month[/QUOTE]
“Haters gonna hate” is for every hater in here. Besides, if you’re gonna reply to someone specifically, usually one would quote them. Your post was right under mine, therefore I thought it was directed at me.
Trying too hard at what? Hanging out in a forum talking about a game I like while I wait for my devs to deliver builds to me? Yeah, wooooo, it sucks getting paid to do this job…
Movies are cheaper. And even though you might get 30 hours from brink, it depends on the quality of those hours. For most it sucked and not worth the money.
Portal 2 gave me (I don’t remember how much) around 15 hours. But those were the best 15 hours I have ever had. Well worth the 60 bucks. (I would of rather rented it, but oh well).
On the matter of the question, I would no for pc and xbox. I would not get Brink 2 for the xbox, nor would I get it for pc.
Its 10 times easier to reply using quick reply on my phone. My pc isn’t running, I use my DROID for internet
would not buy, I had high hopes for BRINK, but as it is now it’s the biggest dissapointment in a long time.
Teamplay is reduced to pressing a button, skillcap is the lowest in any game I’ve ever played, not moddable at all…
No wonder only console players still cling to it.
^Teamplay means working together for a common goal. Has very little to do with pressing a button, bro. That’s why maybe you struggle with Brink.
