BR-16 on Fragger - good or bad?

(son!) #21

If it had slightly more ammo it could be competitive as it can put out a ridiculous amt of damage at any range, but in revive-train fights which are typical for fragger you will fast run out of ammo. Additionally not one loadout card has the high-tier fragger augments (Drilled, Focus, Unshakeable), and the combinations that are available are really not that useful. So Br16 fragger is simply no-go at the moment.

(watsyurdeal) #22

I did ok with it…but the M4 is definitely better. The problem with Burst Rifles is the delay between bursts is enough for most guns to finish you if you miss, you need to be very accurate, and it’s too inconsistent unless you’re a very skilled player.

(D.C.V.) #23

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Seriously, go with K-121(like a real man) or M4. You’re supposed to enter a room and kill everyone. You can’t do that with burst rifles, because if you miss one shot, you actually miss 3.

(singular) #24

Just think of the BR-16 as a marksman rifle. @Szakalot I see your point however I don’t know how to say this without looking selfish. I have pretty good aim and I can confidentially get 3 shots on the head 80% of the time.

If you have really good aim, you can excel with the BR-16. If your aim isn’t that good, you’re going to be spending more time hitting the wall behind the target than the actual target. Just use whatever gun is best for you.

(Szakalot) #25

[quote=“singular;36481”]Just think of the BR-16 as a marksman rifle. @Szakalot I see your point however I don’t know how to say this without looking selfish. I have pretty good aim and I can confidentially get 3 shots on the head 80% of the time.

If you have really good aim, you can excel with the BR-16. If your aim isn’t that good, you’re going to be spending more time hitting the wall behind the target than the actual target. Just use whatever gun is best for you. [/quote]

how often you fight against lvl30+ opponents? at that level of play people dodge headshots, crouch spam; wall spam, fast AD switches, BR16 HAS to go for heads, making it very punishing.

Sure you can rek with it too, but if you’re aim is that good, you will be at least as deadly with M4

(Gi.Am) #26

One advantage of the BR-16 on anybody not only fragger is, that a headshot instantly kills light classes. So if you fire first a Aura or Proxy won’t even get a shotgun shot out. That means the BR-16 can have an advantage both on the long range and the extreme closerange.

That said the BR-16 is a very situational weapon while both the M4 and the K121 are better in normal day to day use imo.

(subtleMode) #27

I hated the BR, but forced myself to practice with it after somebody suggested I learn it. Can’t go back to the Dreiss now. I went from 8-12 kills on average (I’m not that good at the game), to 15-25. This is using either Kira or Arty though, not Fragger. But yeah, once you get good at landing headshots with the BR you can take out Aura, Proxy, Sparks, and Kira in one click. Vasillis are pretty easy to take out at long range too.

Also with Kira, with one or two shots on Rhino, you can usually use your speed to circle and melee finish him with the Stolnetto (for some reason most of my Rhino kills are from melee attacks).

(LifeupOmega) #28

You know what, amending this after trying the BR a bit more. It’s a really, really solid rifle. Still doesn’t feel as versatile as the M4 does, and the K121 isn’t amazing any more. But the BR holds its own, and if you can get those headshots it out-damages the M4.

My main issue with it though is close-up fire fights, the burst delay is just unforgiving in close quarters.

(god1) #29

[quote=“LifeupOmega;37635”]
My main issue with it though is close-up fire fights, the burst delay is just unforgiving in close quarters.[/quote]
It still does a lot more damage than the M4 if you get the burst timing right.

(Old Man) #30

BR-16 is a beast at medium-long ranges and doable at short. From all assault rifles it is my favourite. It has the best accuracy and great DPS if you can handle burst-fire.

(Keldrath) #31

It’s terrible, the M4 is better in every way. That said, you might actually be good with the BR-16, some people are just wizards with it, and if you can make it work realy well, then there’s nothing wrong with using it. So it just matters how effective it is for you. You might be more effective with it than the M4 even.

(CCP115) #32

There is nothing wrong with the BR-16.

It’s just the K-121 and M4 thats the problem. M4 excels at ALL ranges, except for point blank where shotguns reign supreme. The K-121 got a nerf recently, so it is only really good at mid to close ranges, but hell the mag size is huge.

BR-16? It’s good, but why use anything else when you have the M4?

(Ghosthree3) #33

Imo the gun just has too much risk to be worth using. But if you get it to pay off you can get crazy burst damage with a triple headshot, which instakills light classes.

(meditativePillar) #34

I was excited to trade up for a gold Fragger card and got the B52 Hurricane Rifleman. I’ve learned that bronze cards are good enough for me.

Using the BR is just going to come down to a change of pace. If you run the Power Gunner card all the time and want to change things up, the BR is a good choice. I don’t think you’ll be in a situation where you’ll wish you had the BR-16 over the M4.